Caryl

Hmm not sure I can help but I do have some comments. The only thing I could find about black spots was; 1. Fish has suffered a chemical burn and is now healing. Check water conditions. 2. A parasitic infection by flatworms called Uvilifer ambloplitis. It requires an immediate host though (like birds) and is only found in ponds. Neither of these seems to fit your fish. When a fish suddenly develops identical lesions I immediately assume it has been chased, or frightened, into a space too small for it to fit and it has damaged itself in the attempt to escape. Do you have an ornament it used to fit into easily but is now too big to do so? I do not know anything about algae treatments but wonder if it is affecting the fish. I have heard of it doing so but do not know what the symptoms are. Goldfish do not object to current so, unless they are trying to hover as far away from the flow as possible, it won't be stressing them.

Sounds like the normal price to me. They are not difficult to buy most of time and are readily available at many lfs. Also, read the guidelines please; No posts are to be made with the intention of forming a bulk purchase or import by invite to meet a minimum order quantity Clown loaches are happier in groups and grow large (though slowly) so you need a good sized tank to house them. They are also susceptible to white spot so need excellent water conditions at all times. Good luck with your search.

I am not very ball-like at all :lol: (any more) I didn't realise they were goldish and not tropical so ignore the temperature advice :roll: I don't think oxygen shells do a lot and are a waste of money. The pump will help them while they are in the bucket for an extended period but I thought it was only going to be a few hours?

They are not available in NZ

Good to see you Jenna. 8)

If the transition period is short ( a few hours at most) an oxygen shell is not needed. I would never use one anyway. You can add dechlorinator to the water to get rid of it immediately or leave it 24 hours. A little bit of chlorine shouldn't hurt. Yes it is bad for a fish to be in a bucket too long if it without water changes or a filter - and a heayerstat depending on room temperature. Was the fish sick before it was put in the bucket? It would help if your hospital tank had a filter, which is different to a pump but what I suspect you mean. Frequent water changes will do the job though. The water may smell a little musty or have a slight smell. If it smells a lot I suspect a lot of crud in the substrate is to blame and a good vacuum of the gravel with a siphon would be in order.

and does he? (squeek that is)

Wow, talk about ressurecting an old post! :lol: Good to hear the club is still going. I attended quite a few of their meetings when they were still affiliated to the FNZAS. A very friendly group with an interesting selection of fish at that time. I remember daphnia fishing with Gary in the local botanical gardens and a couple of delicious club meals at Ian's. 8)

My daughter is 29 today so I took a birthday cake to her classroom. I am not the world's greatest cake maker but it is the thought that counts. :roll: At least the kids took one look at it and said "That's Denny Crane!!" so they knew what it was supposed to be. Kelly has a Birman she named Denny Crane after the character in Boston Legal. She felt they had the same attitude. Denny goes to school on occasion so the kids all know him. Kelly threatens one pupil with a knife :lol: Cutting off his tail Admiring Denny's profile Denny was vanilla and on top of a chocolate cake so there was plenty for the class, staff at playtime, and leftovers to take home. The kids were very bloodthirsty and keen to see Denny sliced up. One was disappointed there was no blood when the knife went in :-?

Red streaks in the tail can be caused by a number of things; 1. Poor water quality. Check ammonia, nitrites and nitrates. Some say red streaks are associated with either high nitrate or low oxygen. More water changes are the answer. 2. Bacterial infection. If water changes haven't helped, test results show water quality is good and the fish is lethargic, then a bacterial infection may be the problem. You can buy meds for bacterial infections. Do not medicate unless you are sure of the disease! 3. A natural colouring in the fish. If they are very pale coloured fish the bloodlines show up in the fins. If the red streaks are associated with ragged looking fins it may be a bacterial infection or a result of vigorous spawning.

BNs have large orange eggs. Don't know what colour SAE eggs are or if they breed in tanks.

Having had Fluvals, Eheims and Jebo I found the Jebo quietest. I have to put my hand on it to feel the vibrations to make sure it is running.

From the Dream moods dictionary - a site that helps you interpret dreams... Fish To see fish swimming in your dream, signifies insights from your unconscious mind. Thus to catch a fish, represents insights which have been brought to the surface. Alternatively, a fish swimming in your dream may symbolize conception. Some women dream of swimming fish when they get pregnant. The fish is also an ancient symbol of Christianity and Christian beliefs. Consider also the common phrases "like a cold fish", "fish out of water" or something that is "fishy" about a situation. It may also imply a slippery or elusive situation. To dream that you are eating fish, symbolizes your beliefs, spirituality, luck, energy and nourishment. It is food for the soul. To dream of cooking fish, indicates that you are incorporating your new realizations with your spiritual feelings and knowledge. To dream that you are cleaning fish, suggests that you are altering your emotional expression in a way that will be presentable to others. You are censoring yourself and not expressing how you completely feel.

I sometimes dream about living underwater. A recent dream (non-fish related) was odd but the only bit I can remember is saying to a little girl of about 4 or 5 yrs, dressed in red Christmas outfit with white fur trim) "You realise at this time of year girls are called Christmas tarts?" :roll: :lol: I thien woke up. That one was a bit of a worry!

I have never dropped a fish. I have had plenty leap out of hands, nets, tanks and buckets, but I have never dropped one

Perhaps it would be more accurate to say the area your tank was sitting on is level, rather than the tank itself

Same thing. Water sprite is also known as Indian fern and is Ceratopteris thalictroides I was thinking of WCMMs when I mentioned the oxygen weed so you are probably right, 22C will be too warm for it

One of our members used oxygen weed from the local river. Can't get cheaper than that Water wisteria and Indian fern are good too. They can hide in the floating leaves and the root systems.

Aaron-betta I am drooling over that printer. I WANT ONE!!! Think how fast I could get the Aquarium World magazines done! Better yet, I want a machine that folds and staples books. My husband and I own a computer company plus I work one day a week as a medical receptionist. I also do desktop publishing work (small print runs of cards, advertising brochures, calendars, posters, Aquarium World magazine etc) mostly for clubs and other community groups. Never got around to getting a degree as I couldn't see the point since I haven't worked out what I want to do for a career yet :lol:

and some of you are wondering why you are too broke to buy Christmas presents :lol: :roll:

No but they can be pains in the A**** :roll:

I have never understood how anyone can drink Coke or Pepsi. Dreadful stuff! Not as bad as those V things and other caffeine laden energy drinks though. Yuck!!! :lol:

You say the only thing different was spirulina chips. I tried a new brand of these once and the fish didn't like them so left them lying on the substrate. I noted they swelled up a lot more, once in water, than the previous brand of chips had done. I wonder if a chip has expanded inside the fish and now has 'gone off' as it hasn't been able to pass it? I once had a BN swell up (no extra bubbles anywhere though) and it exploded and died. All other fish fine.

The rise in temperature does not 'get rid of it' on its own, it just speeds up the white spot cycle so the meds work more quickly.

When we did our pond I contacted the council and they said since we weren't swimming in it, it was not a swimming pool therefore did not have to be fenced. No idea how deep it is but I think it is over the 400mm in places.