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please, oh pleas give metric measurements... anything from 1g/L to 6g/L depending on the fish type and if raising the temp. Cats etc don't much salt so it is at the lower range for them (at or around what fishguy said) so 1 or 2g/L Most other fish seem to tolerate upto 3g/L ok My natives (and other salt tolerant fish) will cope well with 6g/L If you see salt doses as x ppt this is the same as x g/L 1 cc or mL of fine salt weighs about 1.1g

I thought that red shirts were gay, our beloved leader seems to think so. But then he thinks that our scientists should lie about the state of our water ways...

Quick post about my 'day job', anyone got some interesting pics of what they do for a crust?

None of the SI ones do and the Dwarf galaxias in the NI doesn't, the landlocked Inanga in the dune lakes dont, what others are there?

could be fun

Giant Kokopu Banded Kokopu Shortjaw Kokopu Koaro and Inanga

I don't know about Glossostigma diandrum , but G. elatinoides grows in most of the hydro lakes north of taupo. http://naturewatch.org.nz/observations/319884 suggests that there was some on the eastern shore...

Couldthey also be charged with animal cruelty, depending on how they were killed?

was going to invite you all across to see my natives for the tank crawl but i'll be in Gisborne :an!gry

They have some nice galaxiidae in the south island so jealous. I can count 13 wild natives, 15 if you count black flounder and grey mullet - so getting there

Thanks for the idea sophia, I'll see how a bit more salt and time goes. Stella, I'll admit that the water when they were outside was neglected, as is so easy to do when it isn't in the same room as you. I'll bump the salt upto 6ppt a bit latter - they have already had one increase tonight.

I think it is in this tank:

Back history: until about 4 or 5 weeks ago all my natives were outside and in cramped conditions and possably poor water conditions - not enough w/c's. When they were moved back in to their 430l tank some of the bullies ad fins that were in a poorer state, a bit torn etc but no sign of infection. I added a little salt (about 2-3g/l) for the first week, that was removed with about 30% weekly w/c. in the first few days of the tank being re-setup the ammonia peaked at about .25 but came down quite fast. In the first week the feeding was light to help with any ammonia spikes. At about 2 week in I noticed that one of the big torries was breathing hard and was listless but still looked to be eating. Increased surface agitation. didn't seem to help. At about 2 1/2 -3 weeks the torrie passed on At about 3 weeks I noticed the same in one of the big female Cran's bullies, within 24h she was dead as well. At about 3 or 4 weeks I saw one or two bullies with raised spots on tails or pectoral fins, started with more salt (3g/l) By 5 weeks (now) the spots have got large, maybe 5+ bullies have developed them, and in the first two fish that I saw the spots on some spots have vanished. some bullies are flashing. I have done 2 50% water changes in the last week and the salt is now at 4g/l. Yesterday I thought I was perhaps on top of the infection as I hadn't seen new spots for a day or two. Tonight I see that one bully has new spots and for the first time I see what could be a spot on a kokopu. until now only the bullies have shown spots. Most of thes spots have been where there could have been fin damage from when they were outside - I've not seen spots on their main body until tonight with the kokopu and one bully. The bully has a spot/growth on in in it's gill plate. The spots are very raised and much bigger than ich, almost growth like but look to be somewhat embedded ie on one of the bullies tail the spots were visible from both sides. The only thing that has changed in the tank is moving all the fish back inside and the addition of stream gravel. The gravel cane from a flood course from a clear-water stream. Where it came from was water filled with a very slow flow, maybe about 1 1/2 feet deep and quite warm. there were bullies and a trout fingerling in the pool where it came from. The gravel was only rinsed in the same water, not under tap water. I'm wondering what the parasite/infection could be, and if I should up the salt some more (adding another 400g atm to take it to about 5g/l) Photos: And on or in gill cover:

wonderful mcrudd

more?

I had some Fissidens berteroi that was starting to get encrusted with java(?) moss so I just spent the last 3 hours extracting them from each other and making a moss tree: It will be interesting to see how well it grows like this. What's left over:

That would be cool mcrudd, I'm thinking of riding to work... I'm passably fit, I do a days physical labour every day, and often not light work (beekeeper), It was just the 3 hours with a pack on my back. Had great weather and even managed to see a few good sized shortjaw kokopu.

I'm jealous that you can run... Went for a hike on the weekend and camped by a little stream on Pirongia, so packed in tent/mat/bag/food/etc... man I'm unfit

You spelt hole wrong there :sick:

I have posted that bit by Rexii66 on here in the salt section so the info is on here, somewhere...

My wife introduced me to a new worf yesterday - ghoti Here it is used in a sentience (the sounds for pronouncing it are underlined below): As tough the little ghoti was the eagle still managed to catch him in his talons. This gave the ghoti an education in the circle of life.

bacteria need food to expand their population, this food either comes from slowly adding fish or by adding another ammonia source - decomposing food or pure ammonia

I like the bit at front left, but it would probably not fit in my 4fter

I think I would start over, and move it away from the smelly glade block

cool find in the elver/eel, not sure at what point the name changes :dunno: The other two look to be either common bullies or female redfin bullies but I would need a better look side on to see their markings. I would take the heater out as it's not needed for our natives and 20 deg is the max that they like for any length of time. To keep the temp down a desk fan can be pointed to the surface of the tank to cause evaporation and heetloss. The eel will probably eat anything that gets put into the tank but small bullies can sometimes be picky - I have 3 female redfins that I caught all at the same time and are the same age but only one of them really eats commercial foods. Nearly all of our natives love ox heart (without the fat and skin on)