Jaxxnz Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 You better watch out! you better not hide.." MAF is coming.. to your door.... :facepalm: Hey guy had a visted from MAF this moring regards to the purchased of Marimo balls.. i guessing a couple of members here must be in the same boat as I... :slfg: They said its was the real Marimo balls, i thg i got cons with moss :slfg: The poor chick seller from trademe is going to get a hard time for MAf.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 *cough* :digH: Did they seize it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepsnana Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Noob question: What's wrong with Marimo balls? Wikipedia says they don't grow naturally here...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 MAF. Only thing I can see wrong with them is that they suck up sediments. Possible diseases, organisms ect. :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxxnz Posted December 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 i spy with my little eyes some starting M.... :slfg: they told me i was the only 1 here in Aucklnad who brought it..in total there were 7 people who purchased it the rest of the purchaser were from the south island.. :digH: Maf guy from ChC pay a special visted to Akld to see my fish tank.. cough.. :digH: :mbh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 You better watch out! you better not hide.." MAF is coming.. to your door.... :facepalm: Hey guy had a visted from MAF this moring regards to the purchased of Marimo balls.. i guessing a couple of members here must be in the same boat as I... :slfg: All I can say is that you deserved the visit. You purchased it knowing that it was illegal, your comments on another thread state that. You are lucky if all that happened was that they seized the plant. Let it be a warning to you and anyone else tempted to buy something that is illegally imported that you will be caught!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 I have had "the visit" after purchasing some plants off trademe and not realising they had been imported illegally. I was lucky as the plant had died. Best to remember that they have the right to sterilize any aquarium that the plant has been in and they would be tempted if they knew you were aware that the plant was illegally imported. Fish and plants do not survive being sterilized, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Because the balls are not found here naturally, they are an illegal import. No telling what may have come in with them. Good to see MAF is on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Good to see MAF is on the ball.How long did you work on that pun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Good to see MAF is on the ball. :sml2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 How long did you work on that pun with Caryl that comes naturally :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 All I can say is "I told you so" I would be extremely cautious to purchase one of those. I dont think they have ever legally been imported into NZ. if you buy one put it in your tank and maf finds out they came in illegally they will destroy everything in your tank! I know someone that smuggled them into the country and there whole tank got destroyed including the fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 no 'victims' here methinks I don't know why people take the law so lightly at times, just isn't worth the risk of punishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuri08 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 rules were meant to be broken lighten up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 rules were meant to be broken lighten up Not bio security Former DEFRA inspection agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 What does DEFRA stand for? Or is it just an agency? *no I didn't buy one* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs UK version of MAFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Rural affairs makes me think of wife swapping farming folk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 rules were meant to be broken lighten up. I suppose that depends on whether or not you really care for the future of fish keeping in this country. I am one of a small number of, not necessarily forum members but, fully paid up FNZAS members who are working really hard to foster good working relationships with MAF, BioSecurity NZ and other organisations which can only serve to advance the hobby in NZ. My greatest concern is that Jaaxnz is still laughing at the fact that he/she was caught and now you obviously do not think the issue is at all serious, but the more people who flout the rules and bring in or purchase fish or plants illegally and then spread them around or release them into the wild, the greater the number of restrictions that will be put in place. The simple fact of the matter is - if you know it is endangered or not allowed - do not touch it but report it to the authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Adrienne is right if we as a hobby/industry work with the bio security agencies we will see more stuff allowed in. It has been done for high risk areas before. I was lucky that the field I worked in for DEFRA has a very good relationship with them and we got a lot of support form the industry, made our jobs so much easier. Back on topic, there is probably very little reason that Marimo Balls or alteast the algae that form them could survive in the wild in NZ. Do we really want yet another species of algae in our waterways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I don't think the would form perfect balls like they do in Japan. I think I was reading wikipedia :facepalm: and it said that they form in underwater cave like areas and the water forms like a circular spiral and this is why they form balls? I can't remember the exact process. I could survive, quite easily, but forming balls is unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasi Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Those rules are put in place for a reason, And that reason is not just for you to break them. I imagine you would not be laughing if MAF/BSNZ decided to just put a blanket ban on importing at all. It is the immature and ignorant attitude from some people that risk the privilege of many. Yes I speak strongly about this as I actually care about the future of my hobby and it really annoys me when people think they are entitled to just do as they wish at the cost of others. And as Adrienne states, there are many of us who are actual payed and dedicated members of the FNZAS who work hard to build relationships with the applicable authorities to compliment the hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxxnz Posted December 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 rules were meant to be broken lighten up "on the button.., if some1 out there selling tropical ray without maf approved, i would bet all my money on that there will be one or 2 tempted to have it in their tank.. Any way all my beauty was not harm from Maf. :smln: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 What you are saying is that just because people break rules means it's OK to break them. It's not even a logical argument and is not making you look like an informed person. Next you'll be complaining about being put in jail for drink driving or having to do community service for shoplifting. Both of those acts are also OK because everyone else is doing it according to you. I suggest you keep your so called allowable rule breaking to yourself in future and stop attention seeking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxxnz Posted December 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 I am not trying to seek for attention, but with the purchased of the plants i was trying to infrom others members who did purchased to be careful.. there is not need to hide, as i didnt have it in my tank..and my fish was not distroy. Think and say what ever you wanted to, To me is a extinct plant and if i wanted to have it i will take it, no matter what it will cause me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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