blueether Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I must say that my LFS is quite good at matching the prices of HFF on most things, and have stocked food after I have inquired about availability. I still think that only $25 more for a bucket is not too bad a difference in price when it includes NZ tax, also note that many US on-line stores add tax at the checkout as they have differing tax rates for in state and out of state sales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted September 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I still think that only $25 more for a bucket is not too bad a difference in price when it includes NZ tax, also note that many US on-line stores add tax at the checkout as they have differing tax rates for in state and out of state sales for anyone outside auckland it's $40 if you order one bucket, around $110 if you order two. And that's with paying a massive amount for freight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropheus Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovmoller Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 I would just like to add to this discussion that beause I have been able to buy some of my gear and food overseas much cheaper than I would have been able to here it has allowed me to expand my hobby to more and bigger tanks than if I'd had to buy everything locally. This in turn means that I have probably bought more fish and other non importable things locally because I was able to save on food and gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepsnana Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 I would just like to add to this discussion that beause I have been able to buy some of my gear and food overseas much cheaper than I would have been able to here it has allowed me to expand my hobby to more and bigger tanks than if I'd had to buy everything locally. This in turn means that I have probably bought more fish and other non importable things locally because I was able to save on food and gear. And if everyone did this, the price of fish would have to go up, to cover revenue lost from stock not selling. A very rough example: without importing: buying 30 fish locally at $10 each, and equipment locally at $400. Total: $700 with importing, after a few years of no local equipment or food sales: buying 30 fish locally at $20 each, and equipment imported at $350. Total: $950. This is where I see the current import action taking us. My figures are only examples, but you get the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 the market will always adapt to demand some will always need to physically see something before purchase hard to layby an import times they are a changing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 I take it you have never bought anything off trademe or secondhand for that matter then Sheepsnana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 can it not work the other way with retailers thinking hmmm i need to reduce my prices to make sales... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Most importers will take the cost of the fish, freight, fees and testing regime then add 100% and the retailers do the same so your $1 fish in Singapore goes up in price pretty quickly. We are however dealing with perishable goods and a now potentially expensive testing regime for diseases so I can't see the price of fish coming down but more likely going up. Equipment is another issue. I think most pet shops survive on food and equipment for cats and dogs---a lot of which I would suspect is made locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackp Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 can it not work the other way with retailers thinking hmmm i need to reduce my prices to make sales... It quite possibly has worked this way. Nls used to cost almost $200 a bucket locally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 It quite possibly has worked this way. Nls used to cost almost $200 a bucket locally Pre globalisation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackp Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 price drop was fairly recent. when it was $200 a bucket there were people selling for $150 a bucket on trademe. now it's $156 at hollywoods (and you can get a further discount with fnzas membership). in my mind, if your in the auckland area and not paying for shipping it makes sense to buy it from hollywoods. it's only an extra $25 a bucket and there's no risk of anything going wrong with delivery (yes it's rare but stuff does happen). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 can it not work the other way with retailers thinking hmmm i need to reduce my prices to make sales... many are only just breaking even as it is, and to be honest dropping the price will not increase the sales enough to justify it, many prices on trademe etc.... are a lot higher than in your LFS anyways yet people still will pay it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 So, why don't the LFS start their own TM shops?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 So, why don't the LFS start their own TM shops?? Organism and HFF both have TradeMe accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 and ones here in Tga have trademe accounts if you can't beat them join them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Redwoods and proud paws also have trademe acounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 i see a few other who sell with no physical shop listings look like a copy of a wholesalers list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepsnana Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 I take it you have never bought anything off trademe or secondhand for that matter then Sheepsnana? Yes I have bought second hand equipment, but if I'm going to buy it new, I consider local shops before imports. I had the option of getting my canister filter from HFF for $139 or buying it from my local store for $189. I spoke to the local store, they said they simply couldn't match it, so I bought it from the local store anyway. I buy local fish off TM as well as from the pet store. If we were to only use TM and trade between ourselves, there would be no new genes coming in :roey: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Also Redwood. I bet others do too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 i see a few other who sell with no physical shop listings look like a copy of a wholesalers list I have heard the wholesalers may be changing their policies soon to prevent this. I also know of a particular shop selling tanks that has a seperate account for every region in NZ and just rings the wholesalers with the orders taking advantage of their free delivery service so they don't have to waste shelf space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I have heard the wholesalers may be changing their policies soon to prevent this. that is one i have heard before I also know of a particular shop selling tanks that has a seperate account for every region in NZ and just rings the wholesalers with the orders taking advantage of their free delivery service so they don't have to waste shelf space. smart shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 and ones here in Tga have trademe accounts if you can't beat them join them hard to beat them by joining them as you still have the 15% GST disadvantage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 hard to beat them by joining them as you still have the 15% GST disadvantage you claim on what you buy in so not 15% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 I have heard the wholesalers may be changing their policies soon to prevent this. that is one i have heard before Rep claims that due to pressure from retailers they are going to change their pricing structure to fix the problem sometime before the end of October, won't be holding my breath too much though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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