Caper

I closed out of there by mistake & when I came back in I must have been typing the above just as you were answering :lol: :lol: I wouldn't want to overstep my bounds, oh wait, I would like to "over step to New Zealand for a trip". It does say you have to be a member of a club. But I'm glad there's another place for me to see people's fishies

Thanks Zev for pointing that out... :lol: literally I have been coming here for over a year now & :oops: I never noticed that before. But, I can't post pics there right, only members can? I just clicked in there & I think I've seen something in it before...did you have a link to it somewhere here because the bottom part looks familiar with smileys. Gee, now that I :oops: know it's there I'll have to go looking, by the way the "silly otto", that is a really good pic :lol:

Now there's one I don't need explained to me Caryl :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I was checking out pet supplies online and saw these long gloves for use when putting hands in tank. I would think they would be very cumbersome though, but since I don't have them I don't know :-?

Thanks all Can't get nitrate test kit around here. Although, there is a new small pet supply store that just opened, I was in before but he didn't have anything in for fish as yet I might take a scoot over tomorrow to see if he has them. I'm using 4L jugs now as anything heavier was too hard on my back. But the hot water you use, does it come from your tap? Are your pipes coming out of the hot water tank made of copper? Update on fishies... No deaths today :P ...white spots are almost gone, at least I think hard to see, not one of the neons will get close enough for me to see (maybe that is a good sign) can't see any on my platy, guppy...the sailfin might be a couple on tail but not sure, again won't get close and when he does won't stay still with his "are you going to feed us dance". Although, I did notice one guppy (who had no Ick on him) still scratching, not as much though. Anyway, I'll try to see if I can spot any on them (how lame, no pun intended) tomorrow & if not I'll treat 3 more days. Good news for me & my fishies...I'm going looking tomorrow to see what I can get to use for a quarantine tank I'm finally going to be able to get one! I truly, truly appreciate all the help and support...I think I may have given up if not for you folks here...THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH

Is that because you are on a well, Caryl????

Hehe...is that your heart I can hear all the way over here with excitement at that idea :lol: :lol:

Excellent...excellent Photo gallery...ah, do you mean freshwater tank section? If so, I thought you needed permission to post pics there :-? :-?

Thanks all I emailed the company about their product and copper, but I won't hear back for a few days as they are temp off their emailing whatever Yes, this is the same tank that had the foul smell...and the sailfin molly that up & disappeared! I never made a connection to any of this as the root of my fishies problems. I'd actually have to go back here to see when all of this mess started. I have read about Ick lots of times, and honestly don't remember reading that it could take 2-3 weeks for the spots to appear, shoot! I don't like putting meds in either especially when I can't see anything wrong. But when the scratching first started, not many fish and not doing it a lot, so at the time not too worried, considering one time if a fish scratched at all I panicked till I learned here, thanks Bill, that fish do sometimes scratch! Anyway, as it got worse, I knew it was more than just an "itch" and because I couldn't see anything visible and when my platy was doing all the scratching last year (again nothing was visible) I treated with the med for internal/external parasites and it saved him, although he didn't make it this time . So, if it takes that long for the Ick parasite to appear and you're fish are scratching what is the first line of attack????? Of course, the first being test water

Sorry, wish I could help I don't have any kinds of loaches so I know nothing about them. I hope she gets better...but WOW that's pretty amazing, its a sure sign that you give her lots of TLC

Sharn I was wondering the same thing? Are plasters, what we would call band-aids? But I was also wondering, wouldn't stuff still get to the cut, unless what you have is TRULY waterproof? I was also wondering if any kind would be safe to go into the tank :oops: And, by the way Sharn, I'm not blonde...I just have these "Dolorosa moments" :-? :lol: :lol:

:lol: I was only kidding about it being a lake

Thanks whetu I did email the company, they told me to take the impeller apart by removing one of the end caps, remove the plastic impeller and maganet and give it a good cleaning check for an chips or damages...and if that didn't work, get back to them. When I took the first cap off, there were...like fine hair-like threads around the metal shaft. I couldn't see this before when I was cleaning it, but then I wasn't taking it apart (didn't know you good :oops: ), it was near the end cap that goes into the tube. But once I saw this, I took the other end cap off as well, but it was clear. The loud noise was more like a *hmmm* a loud humming :-? Anway, you can barely hear it now The overflow, :lol: never used that word before in fishy land, is still happening, although I don't find it as much as before. Testing the water, everything is fine *OH NO, I hope I haven't jinxed myself*. I believe my water is clear, I know it sounds silly but the reason I say that is: I don't have a background on this tank because of where it is sitting. Part of it, you see my blue wall, & the top part you see my kitchen. JoandWilly, ah: I don't know what you mean by "normal filter foam" :oops:

Thanks BlueandKim I get the 2 mixed up...and I really do have a terrible memory sometimes :-? Sorry, but I think your fishy are going to win :lol: :lol: It's like the first time my sister saw my cat just sitting and staring at the door, she wanted to know what he was doing this for...I told her "he rarely, rarely meows to get out". Her laughing response was "stupid cat". I told her oh no, he is not stupid...he just sits there and stares knowing full well that if I don't open the door, he'll get my attention by grapping the curtains! So, you just might be out smarted by your fishy :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hmmm...I have a terrible memory...but, Jude, is it the Chinese Algae Eaters that are aggressive? I just gave a fast read through the link you posted and the SAE are not know to be, so I was wondering if it is the Chinese ones that are?

Excuse me...but that is not a pond...it's a lake :lol: :lol:

How many tanks will that be??? Nice case of MTS huh!

How are your fishies doing now????

Hi Nice tank...cute little fishies. You're tank must weigh...a ton ...with all those rocks Take care, Caper

What do you mean by that? The water conditioner I use states: "Neutralizes chemicals harmful to fish", it also states "neutralizing chlorine and heavy metals" (chloramine as well). I have emailed the company explaining that copper pipes lead from my hot water tank and if their product would...shoot, *what did I say*...anyway, something about make it safe from that as well. I know nothing about metals, copper and such, does anybody know if copper is considered a heavy metal and what do you think the chances are that it would make my water safe from copper. Although, why is copper bad as well for fishies? I don't really remember but I thought I read somethings here about it but I think I may have thought it was only dangerous if it was being used for pipes directly connected to tanks. I didn't add any warm water from my tap last night. When I added the water to the tank tonight, the temp went down almost 2 degrees. Lost 5 fish now . I don't think any of the neons are going to make it

Oh..I am so sorry for all you have and continue to go through. I do always wash my hands before/after being in my tanks but I have to admit I have a terrible habit of nail and biting skin on my fingers. But since all the trouble with my fishies because I was scared maybe this somehow may have contributed to their problems so I am trying really hard to kick the habit. Thanks for sharing this with us and I wish you the best Just a question, is fish TB the same as what humans can get, if you know what I mean?

Thanks Sharn I received an email back from Jungle Labs, they said it was ok to mix the meds. They recommended lots of aeration so I did add another air stone and to keep doing the 25% water changes before each treatment. I have to wait 24 hours before using the Ick Guard which means I have to stay up till 1 a.m. Lost a neon today Okay, the pipes leading from the hot water tank are copper, so I take it that means I can't add any water from the hot water tap, right? I thought this dechlorinator/chloramine stuff was supposed to remove all harmful chemicals so does that mean copper isn't/can't be removed with this stuff? Sharn, how much water to you warm on the stove, roughly? As you all are aware I have not real plants only artificial plants. If I remove all (which would be the best) or at least most of them to make it easier since I have to do a good gravel vac with each water change would removing all of them cause even more stress, what do you folks recommend? I really don't know what I would do without you folks, your knowledge, help and support is what's keeping me going right now

Thanks all I better clarify that...I mean here where I live, not on this site Zev, what I meant by the salt is that the Parasite Guard (PG) contained salt. It was only 4 days after treating with this that I discovered the Ick, I have no doubt a result of the stress. I think I screwed up though, the directions for the PG said wait 6 days before retreating. I thought I had read somewhere, not here on this site, that I could mix the 2 kinds of meds. I did do a 25% water change before treating with Ick medication, but I also panicked when I saw the Ick & thought if I didn't get that under control all my fish would be dead The temp in my tank is almost 74. I don't take the temp of the water I'm adding, a big mistake I guess but I never did. One time I would just let it sit in the containers for a couple of days & it is only recently that I started using some warm water to take the cold chill away. I thought by doing that I was getting it to room temp and that would be okay, but I'm wrong aren't I What is the best thing to do in that aspect? I don't have the heat turned on anymore in my apartment. So, should I get a thermometer & test the water before putting in my tank? And, if it isn't close (a couple of degrees either way is ok???) is it safe to add the warm water from hot water tap??? Mickey, my mickey mouse platy didn't make it Nope Sharn, I do weekly water changes with occasionally missing a week but that is rare. Thanks all for your support, it really means a lot to me.

I feed my goldfish shelled peas once a week. Also, when I feed them their flake food, I put it under the water. Not to say the odd flake doesn't somehow get to the top but putting it under the water lessens the chance of swim bladder due to the gulping in air when they eat. I agree also what has been said about the scratching *shivers*. Like it was said if it is Ick you'll see white spots, kinda like someone took the salt shaker to them

When you have plants that cover the bottom, the ones with the long name, do you still vaccum?

That is so neat, they are a pretty fishy