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I amazed no-one has listed them in their collections. They have been bred here before- lovely little fish, amazing changes in colourings when camoflauging. Friend's got a few that they hope to breed.

As far as Maf is concerned - 'a container load of common sense' Next they will be stopping yoghurt makers- lots of bugs in yoghurt.

As a matter of interest the "flathead"gold nugget are L067 Pseudancistrus sp. A case of importer coming up with a name. I see that butterfly/flounders are being called bumblebee pleco on importers list as well. They looks L52 to me as opposed to L168. Anyone got some of them.

As a matter of interest the "flathead"gold nugget are L067 Pseudancistrus sp. A case of importer coming up with a name.

Or what we called "pulcher" until that was changed. My Daffodils had greeny blue eyes rather than the duller Brichardi. I agree with the notion that these shouldn't be called 'known varient' because that is speculative and the best we got is some pictures to match from the web. Even suggesting a varient based on looks is dodgy- even when intended as a temporary measure those titles have a way of staying around.- eg sp. A.jacobfriebergi becomes "Lemon Jake". They are a new 'batch' of Neolamprologus Brichardi of unknown origin - as I hope their price reflects.

course you would have. Baby fish was down vegas and saw "bumblbee plec"- any ideas? not a common name I know-

And relatively easy to breed. Where did you see them Charlie?

And what i meant was that the maleri in all probability would have an awful existence with those tankmates. It is not an Utaka fish and would like the rocks as territory much as the mbunas, but unless the tank is large enough a full grown auratus male could well bully him to death or at least to frayed finned non-coloured shadow of his former self. If there were a female Aulonocara in there my bet is anything she held would be from a more dominant and territorial fish- ie everything else in the tank beside the Peacock. It's totally a personal preference I agree.

looks like we have a new breeder on the block!- well done, tiger barbs will be fine with the fry, keep the carpet of moss for hiding and watch them breed again. Guppies to breed on the surface next?

Once those mbunas get bigger I would say Maleri will be top far corner trying to go un-noticed trying to stay unbullied, breeding will be way down on the list for him.

If my memory serves me that was either the time of all the power outages or the 'dayglo" danios story. Lots of forum activity over those two

Break off some java fern and pop that in the container. I'd even tease the moss in your tank out and make more of a hidey hole. I 've found platys tend to the bottom dwell at night. What else is in the tank in terms or predators will ultimately determine how they survive

You're right Afrikan they are cool fish to watch, lovely little fish. Would Rainbows handle their aggression? would quite like that combo in a planted tank No worries David - I have some females , I can give you two, from different spawns but all related as Afrikan says. PM me. These guys breed like their Convict cousins, so will probably be CHCH soon. I would love to see the honduran red points and the gold convicts around as well

Well it turns out they weren't far away at all. The pair picked a corner of the tank that was blocked of to the rest by a nice flat sided rock. The female went a real purple black in spawning, with blue chin and finn edging and male just intesified his colours. Both very diligent and attentive parents- the rest of the sajicas and the dempseys are keeping thneir distance and no concerning aggression -as yet . 2nd shot of wrigglers.

Artie's shop in "Vegas" has got to be the best fish room I've been into in NZ-

It has probably more to do with getting a importer to take that much of a punt. He/she would have to, find them, buy them, ship them, quarantine them, pay for all that, then find a market for them, and at $800-$1000 retail for a probable non sexable juvinile they aren't going to fly out the door. Mr Pleco is right in that our best hope for seeing these fish in shops is getting local stock breeding.

As long as they are compatible enough in aggression and size. I found this once, its pretty basic but... a bit of fun http://www.timstropicals.com/Compatibil ... Search.asp

As per Johannes. HFF sell small bags of coral pieces for not much. What doesn't fit in the filter chuck in the tank, . Don't buffer-you dont need to. They'll be happy as.

Have you got a small plastic bottle that you can fill with warm/hot water and float that, put a blanket over tank then get to a pet shop.

I'm not the Discus expert but what I do know: The size of the Discus doesn't necessarily determine age- your pigeons may well have been stunted in their growth at an earlier age, eye size in relation to body size can indicate slightly stunted growth. That doesn't mean they wont successfully breed for you. I would say that if you seriously want to attempt to raise a spawn then the all tankmates will have to go during the process. The pigeons will probably go through a few unsuccessful attempts as they seem to be a fish that need to learn the ropes a bit before they get it right. My friends use a ceramic cone to good success in their breedings. I think it depends how planted the tank is- you don't want to let the fry get lost in relation to the parents. I hope it works for you as it is a fascinating process especially when the fry are feeding on the parents

I have the male and three females the size of the photos then 4 smaller guys(2f,2m) that were getting a bit bullied, so I put the dempsey fry in there which has helped-safety in numbers theory I guess. I never kept cons -am I right in guessing their behaviour will be similar at spawning in terms of territoy and aggression?

BGJD is Blue Green Jack Dempsey. Father is Blue dempsey and mother is regular. They will all look regular but hold blue gene so when one of these is crossed back with a blue dempsey -50% of those fry will be blue dempseys. you cant get blue dempseys with blue X blue

Thanks to 'fishbait' I have a little colony of these guys. this male and female have paired up and wont be far off spawning. Their colours are lovely. and some BGJD ( EBJDXJD) juvi's

Pseudancistrus sp L 067

I keep Common BN in Africans with no probs but I dont go overboard in the ph levels in those tanks- high sevens and everyone seems happy, in fact BN's and africans both spawn in there so must be fine. TTK- get them as small as you can-never had one attacked yet- as they are more effective cleaners. Once they get toward adult size they tend to do more of the hidey hidey thing instead of beavering away as you want.