There is a big Plec out at my hubbys work, he's a bit of a monster actually, just a common old Plec, but very attractive fish.. so nice in fact that a fish person from England was visiting, he had been a judge for many years, he was in the Bay and went in to take a look at fish.. and he said the Plec was a very nice example for show purposes :lol: Actually there are a few larger ones around... we used to have a huge boy called Clarence...