F15hguy Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 has anyone had any experience using furan 2 for Cyano, one of my Display tanks is making me tear my hair out, and being a store display tank I can only do a partial black out if at all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 has anyone had any experience using furan 2 for Cyano, one of my Display tanks is making me tear my hair out, and being a store display tank I can only do a partial black out if at all.... I've only used erythromycin for it which worked well... If you can get it that's what I'd suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 What happens after you treat the symptoms? The cause will still be there and it'll just come back. You need more flow dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 There was a shop down here that told me they used that to cure cyano and I tried it and it works. I used eurethromycen once and lost a lot of fish---probably killed the bugs in the filter. I have used it on other occasions without problems. Prescription only is the problem with E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 What happens after you treat the symptoms? The cause will still be there and it'll just come back. You need more flow dude. Cause already sorted, unable to increase flow due to design of tank (all the cords are built into the stand :an!gry ) was a phosphate increase due to someone adding "pond" fertiliser sticks, and I forgot to turn lights off over night. water changes have fixed phosphate problem (down to 0) and Nitrates are barely registering on the test (so around 0-2.5 ppm) even though it still manages to recolonise in about 2 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 you need chemi clean. distributor is Aquanet Cleans many types of stains from cyanobacteria Works in fresh and salt water Completely safe for all fish, corals, invertebrates, and nitrifying bacteria Chemiclean cleans stains from red, black, blue-green, and methane (bubble) producing cyanobacteria in marine aquariums. It is completely safe for all fish, corals, invertebrates, and nitrifying bacteria in reef systems. It’s simple, quick and easy to use. Chemiclean works within 48 hours oxidizing trapped organic sludge and promotes an ideal enzyme balance. Chemiclean will clean stains from red cyanobacteria in aquariums. It is completely safe for all fish, corals, invertebrates, desirable macro algae, and nitrifying bacteria in reef systems. It’s simple, quick and easy to use. Chemiclean works within 48 hours oxidizing trapped organic sludge and promotes an ideal enzyme balance. Chemiclean will clean stains from red cyanobacteria in aquariums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Ok, but will it get rid of the cyano in addition to cleaning up any stains from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy11 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Cyano can still thrive without phosphates. It is a bacteria, so they can easily adapt to thriving off other compounds in your tank. Hence why it is a pain to get rid of and one of the only things that can get rid of it is provided by vets as an anti biotic. Once it kills it off you need to physically remove the dead cyano as it will sit in your tank and rot if not removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Both furan 2 and erythromycin will kill cyano. Working at a shop with tanks I would have expected both to be in the fish first aid kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Ok, but will it get rid of the cyano in addition to cleaning up any stains from it? Cleans and removes, heard good reports about it working well, using antibiotics is not ideal as it kills your filter bacteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Cyano can still thrive without phosphates. It is a bacteria, so they can easily adapt to thriving off other compounds in your tank. Hence why it is a pain to get rid of and one of the only things that can get rid of it is provided by vets as an anti biotic. Once it kills it off you need to physically remove the dead cyano as it will sit in your tank and rot if not removed. Yup, Cyno thrives when phosphase are too high or too low, when Nitrogen is in excess and CO2 is too low relative to the light level. It can only thrive when the balance optimal for plant growth is upset. It can also thrive if there is too much UV vs nutrient balance and CO2. In tanks with no plants cyno says YAY!!!! - Especially when nitrogen is in abundance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Whilst medication is a quick fix, you need to find the underlying issue which is likely to be high nutrients. Also high temps in summer seems to bring out cyno. Vodka also held to reduce cyno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Although, I find too much vodka makes it more difficult to remove. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Although, I find too much vodka makes it more difficult to remove. 8) But a little more than that and you don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Both furan 2 and erythromycin will kill cyano. Working at a shop with tanks I would have expected both to be in the fish first aid kit? unfortunately Furan 2 is long gone and had no need of it for over a year, not even for customers. erythromycine is prescription only and therefore costly (plus has a shelf date) so is not worth it until all options are expired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 You could always try some melafix and pimafix :gigl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!CrunchBang Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 what about ultralife blue green algae remover? Seemed to work well for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Ever tried hydrogen peroxide? I had a bad outbreak in a small tank, and i put i think about 1ml per 5l (of the 3% strength stuff) and within a day or 2 its all gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearbear Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I used Furan 2 for my tank when I had it and I haven't had a problem with cyno since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Ever tried hydrogen peroxide? I had a bad outbreak in a small tank, and i put i think about 1ml per 5l (of the 3% strength stuff) and within a day or 2 its all gone. I thought you weren't supposed to use H2O2 in an aquarium because it affects the pH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I thought you weren't supposed to use H2O2 in an aquarium because it affects the pH? I think that has been proven to be a myth dude, people use it all the time to help kill different types of algae with great success. In larger doses it would be harmful to fauna and beneficial bacteria though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 In tanks with no plants cyno says YAY!!!! - Especially when nitrogen is in abundance.This is the problem I have in my native tank, so I have taken to growing basil in the tank. Time will tell if this helps or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 attempting a lights out (wouldnt call it full black out) for 3 days while I wait on the next order that should contain furan 2 if I don't get it, have a friendly Vet nearby for the ethro... we shall see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think that has been proven to be a myth dude, people use it all the time to help kill different types of algae with great success. In larger doses it would be harmful to fauna and beneficial bacteria though. Please beware of the advice you are imparting. H2O2 is a very powerful oxidising agent and will burn your fish's gills. It will kill them along with any plant and algae in stronger doses. It is very effective at killing algae - but at what cost. I should know. I wiped out an entire tank with thousands in livestock in one go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 P44, nothing in my statement is incorrect and I even warned at higher doses it will be harmful so why should I beware? Just because you had a bad experience using it does not mean it shouldn't be considered. Just Google it and you will find just as many people that have great success using it on all types of algae with no ill effects. People do use it with great success but of course being a dangerous chemical there is a risk of harming livestock. If I were ever going to do it I would just spot treat the affected areas with the filter off to give it a longer time to be in contact with the affected area. Only for 5 minutes or so though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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