Joe Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 I can't seem to track down any drums, and there are a couple of places that might have them but its too far to walk but thats out of the question anyway because I wouldn't be able to carry a large drum back home on my own. I have repeatedly asked mum to take me to those two places over the last couple of weeks but she has been busy but she said she'll take me on Monday. Until I get this peat filter up and running, I cannot breed any tetras or the licorice gouramis because the tap water is too alkaline for them. On the plus side of things though, both female trifasciata have spawned in the 140L tank so I am going to move the rest of the fish into the 85L tank that I was going to breed the neons in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 :thup: on the spawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Forgot to update. Earlier this week as I was about to move the fish into the other tank I realized that the male trifasciata had eaten the spawn again :facepalm: :an!gry These fish are so frustrating :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 welcome to the spawning game. every fish is different, I bet you could find a couple of newbies who spawned them first time in their 30L aquarium with pH of 7.6 and water changes once per month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 I have managed to source some 150L drums from a local condiment manufacturer for $10.00 each, and they have only had vingar in them :thup: The down side is that they don't have removable lids and only have a couple of holes at the top to fill them so it means that I will have to somehow have to cut the tops of the drums off so I will be able to put the peat and filter wool in, but then I will have to try and find something to cover them with. Also I can't get them yet because they won't fit in mum's car. I also now have 15 Sundadanio axelrodi and 15 more Green Neon Tetras, bumping the shoal up to 25. The Green Neons look so cool in a large group! The Sundadanios are really small but they are quite strong and robust little fish like the Neons. The blue on the Sundadanios is more of a softer iridescence and it isn't as electric as the colour on the Neons. I actually wish I got more Green Neons instead of the Sundadanios, but then I wouldn't have known what the Sundadanios were like and I still would have been wanting them. But all in all, they are both very healthy, active and nice looking fish and they don't have any deformities, and I do not regret my purchase. I have also cut up the mest into panels ready to put together for the breeding trap. I have made two different sizes; 30x25x15cm and 30x20x20cm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 I showed you mine so now you show me yours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Damn, I knew I should have taken photos while they were acclimatizing! Hahaha. I'll go and try to get some pics now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Okay so here's what I've got so far... Pardon the terrible quality, but this lens isn't really suited for this sort of thing. When I borrow Grant's macro lens I should be able to get some better shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 :nfs: :cr8: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 interesting that the axelrod anal fin comes up red in your photo, mine just look very dark. I will have to shine a torch on their finny bottoms and have a closer look :cr10: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Males have red on the anal fin and females don't, and the biggest/most dominant males have completely red bellies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insectile Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Wow they are really awesome fish, especially the Sundadanio's! :nfs: :cr2:, I didn't realise John shipped though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 He doesn't ship. I asked Jennifer to pick them up for me and post them She did an awesome job too, as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insectile Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Oh I see, I was a bit confused for a while there :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 I have had a massive whitespot outbreak and have lost almost everything. The only unaffected fish are the Licorice Gouramis so hopefully nothing happens to them. The Apistogramma trifasciata don't have whitespot either but they do seem to be quite stressed. I will not be breeding anything in the near future and I will not update this thread again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Oh Joe that sucks man, sorry to hear it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Sorry to hear that as well, you had some mice fish there man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 dude, seriously sucks. hopefully you'll be up and running again soon. think of the bright side, now you can devote more time to the licorice gourami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 sorry to hear it Joe &c:ry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Thanks guys. Hopefully I manage to save a few fish but it doesn't look like there will be many survivors. I have around 7 or 8 Green Neons left and quite a lot of them don't look very well. I also have no more than 7 Axelrod's left, although most of them look quite healthy and only have a few spots. But if I can save at least the Licorice Gouramis and Apistos then I will be happy. I will probably just get some cheap and easy to breed fish next. I'm thinking something something along the lines of Odessa Barbs. Celestial Pearl Danios might also be another option since they are really easy to breed too. I raised quite a few fry (about 35) past the 30 day mark, however only 7 fully matured and the rest died because I didn't realize that they needed constant feeding. Now that I have all the parts for a brine shrimp hatchery I shouldn't have a problem rasing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 I have plenty of odessas if you want some Joe, once the whitepot has gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackp Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 I feel for ya mate. It's pretty obvious to anyone that reads your posts that you put an insane amount of care and attention into your fish, so it really sucks that something like this should happen to you. I hope you get it sorted and can get back into breeding as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 I have plenty of odessas if you want some Joe, once the whitepot has gone. Thanks so much Caryl! You're the best I feel for ya mate. It's pretty obvious to anyone that reads your posts that you put an insane amount of care and attention into your fish, so it really sucks that something like this should happen to you. I hope you get it sorted and can get back into breeding as soon as possible. Thank you for your kind words. I spent this evening fishing out dead and dying neons. It's kinda funny - every time I pulled one of those little faded bodies I thought to myself, "That's $8.90 down the drain" :facepalm: When purchasing them though I do know that I was taking a risk that something like this could happen. It would be a lot better if I was working with cheaper fish which is what I plan to do, but if I didn't get the neons in the first place I'd still be wanting them Anyway, I still have all of the Reed Tetras, Licorice Gouramis, Apistogramma trifasciata and 7 Axelrod's - 2 females and 5 males. I might pick up some more Axelrod's from Organism if we go down to Christchurch later on in the holidays, maybe even some CPDs because like I said earlier I've found them very easy to breed :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 don't give up man, you are good at it, but these things happen, not your fault... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSa Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Sorry to read that - sucks bigtime Probably the last thing you wanna hear now - but that is the exact reason you have to have a quarantine tank! Every fish I get from the outside has to go through a 4 week quarantine. After one week of acclimatization (food, water, routine) I start a prophylactic treatment with NaCL (non-plus-ultra for livebearer) for a week. In the second week I put a couple of rubbish fish from my stock in the quarantine tank together with the new ones + use water from my tanks to do waterchanges in the quarantine tank. This will show two things: 1.) Is my stock okay with the bugs the new ones will bring in (and they always do bring some !)? 2.) the other way round gives the new ones a chance to get used to my bugs. If everything looks fine after two more weeks they are good to go. In 20 year of keeping livebearers I never had any problems... Hope that helps, JaSa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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