GrahamC Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 From what I have read, then yes. More frequent vegetable fibre feeding is required to prevent digestive issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 http://thegab.org/Goldfish/goldfish-nutrition-part-1-the-natural-diet-and-digestive-processes.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 That article looks okay, though I find the spelling mistakes jarring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 besides the spelling mistakes i am glad it meets your approval Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I found this link http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/gldfshmalnut.htm more informative though I don't know which plants we have here that we can grow. I do grow duckweed though in my other tanks which I regularly harvest to feed the goldfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Yes means availasble inNZ and legal No means probably around but an unwanted organism and not legal Elodea canadensis yes Egeria densa no Anacharis no Ceratopteris yes Pistia stratiotes no Riccia yes Salvinia no (not to be confused with our duckweed--Lemma minor) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thanks. I recognized the riccia as being the one that caused someone's rash ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 What is this about soaking the flake before feeding it to the goldfish? Never have I heard something this ridiculous about flake food in my life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 What is this about soaking the flake before feeding it to the goldfish? Never have I heard something this ridiculous about flake food in my life! its for old goldfish that don't have their dentures in :sage: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 speaking from personal experience there Mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 flake food with hot water and sugar then pour milk on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Some thoughts on pre-soaking .... Pros: Food ends up quicker on the sand bed, and this gives a better chance for all the gold fish to have a feed since you're restricting the food to a single layer. Those fish with poor eye sight ( exophthalmos ) can compete against the normal eyed fish. Celestials may not be better off though. Gold fish like to root among the sand bed anyway Food that floats when you have a hang on back filter tends to get pushed into the filter. Turning off HOBs can be painful because many do not self prime. Poor quality pellets and flake can swell a lot. Perhaps better it swells outside than inside. Cons: If you use a gravel bed, you'll lose a lot between the gravel There's some loss of nutrient if you soak too long. Let the flaming begin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 you can't flame a wet flake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamstar99 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I have actually heard of this when i used to get problems with swim bladder. But i came to the conclusion it was the fish not the flake. Instead of mucking about and soaking the flake just give it a quick stir and it sinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 My presoak is just to dump some flakes in a cup of tank water, throw some pellets in as well, and once my nespresso is ready, pour it all in. And it seems to work as the black moors get their fair share on the bottom of the tank. All my other fish just get the flake or whatever chucked on to the surface. I've got angels that seem to only eat the flake while it's floating. If it sinks past them, they seem to ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I suggest everyone do whatever suits their fish best. This vary between individuals. :dunno: For those interested, get a glass of water and drop a bit of various types of food in it. Leave it for a few minutes and see what difference there is in size. Some of those cheap pellets swell a LOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordhappy Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Hi everyone, the discussion is very interesting and educational (and amusing) Just thought I'd update to let you all know the fishies are eating again without much spitting. The peas seemed to do the trick (no stringy poo any more). Dorsal fins are erect, fish are active and eating well. :happy2: Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Good to hear, and keep up those frequent water changes until you can afford a larger tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordhappy Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Will do! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Caper Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Hi, Haven't been on here in ages. But on the peas and goldfish, I used to feed my goldfish peas once a week. I just lost my last goldfish before Christmas. Personally, I will not have goldies again because they are better off in a bigggggggggg tank. Take care, Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy06 Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 I have a few gold fish just got them I got a filter the water conditioner the aquarium salt the safe start the food is brand new just opened it yesterday the filter is working the tank is newly cleaned other than the 24 hrs they've been in it what am I supposed to do The water is at 75f There swimming around good Do I get them a different brand of food I got them tetra goldfish flakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted April 23, 2022 Report Share Posted April 23, 2022 Hi Fishy06. Feeding them flakes is fine. I guess, like us, they would like variety but i have always kept to the same food for my goldfish and they haven't complained ? Goldfish are cold water species so do not need to be in water that warm but it will not hurt them. How many goldfish do you have and what size is the aquarium or pond they are in? If you have just filled up a container, added safe start, and several goldfish, then you are going to have problems. Google the aquarium cycle to get an understanding of what is needed. Even with safe start the fish need to be added slowly. Do you have any plants in there? The fish will like them. Goldfish are really hard on most plants, as they eat them. You should be able to go to your local river and get oxygen weed for them. It needs to be washed very thoroughly before adding it to the tank though. Pokitren 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokitren Posted May 6, 2022 Report Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 3/10/2012 at 9:36 AM, wordhappy said: Hi everyone, the discussion is very interesting and educational (and amusing) Just thought I'd update to let you all know the fishies are eating again without much spitting. The peas seemed to do the trick (no stringy poo any more). Dorsal fins are erect, fish are active and eating well. :happy2: Thank you! As a newcomer, I, too, was interested in reading everything. But I found a lot of useful tips here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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