Sheepsnana Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 If you use the syphon at the same (or near the same) height as the water level (lowered to near that of the eggs/young), it should slow the flow rate, hopefully reducing the damage done to the young. You can adjust the height of the syphon bucket to increase/decrease the flow as required. It would be better to not use a self starting syphon, you would want to use just a tube (less mechanical interference.) Just my 2c worth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 My lancelotas took 10 days to hatch, and when they were - dad was helping them hatch. maybe similar in this case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 My experience is that dad wont help and that they hatch about day 7-8 you wont syphon them so easily as they like the folks are long and stiff so they break also eggs are sticky little things so try a low water level for sure but best I found was scraping them with a razor blade not a baster or pipette they are VERY lazy eaters and will NOT move to food so food needs to go to them spirilena (sp) is fine but can be toxic in high quanties so I have found very dirty glass to be best bet. you can brush and bake egg yold on to rocks ( thanks Geoff for this advice) My guys go in a small well cycled tank with good filtration and HEAPS of food HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Awesome thanks once again Nav , lost a few last night to the discus, either that or a few have started hatching. I don't have a decent razor blade till this evening so I might loose this lot any way as I noticed the discus picking around through the substrate underneath the spawn. Not much I can do really, I stuck a breeding trap underneath them but I figure they'll just get sucked through. Next time I shall be more prepared, caught me completely off guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li@m Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 If they are still sticky use your finger and VERY GENTLY roll the eggs off the glass and out them in another tank or a floating fry thing. I do this with my cory eggs and it works fine. Someone correct me if it doesn't work with whiptail eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 That can work or a credit style card? anything firm thin and flexable if you miss this lot start conditioning your fry area now...I cant stress being prepaired for these guys enough as they will graze excessively but are lazy feeders...if that makes sense...they are great fish and we need to get these guys out there as amazing in a tank Nav...oh and happy to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 would sheets of glass covered in algae work in the bottom of their tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Eggs are basically solid black now, I will get a pick shortly if I have time with all the skinks and now the bird. Tomorrow I will be attempting to scrape them off the glass if they are still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 not a good pick but not ideal time to get photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I have not bred them--I have problems keeping them alive. I have seen a couple of people who breed them successfully and as stated above, the young are lazy feeders and they drop the water level way down and leave the tank pretty gungy. The contents of a hanful of moss might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I've loaned and given away too much stuff I don't have a small enough heater any more for a fry tank, so the sump is my only option really, but I tried using a credit card to get them off and I just ended up killing 2 so I might leave it all together this time till I am far more prepared. Need a really sharp blade to get between the egg and glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 So far I count 21, I haven't looked through the media chambers yet and it's hard to see into the mulm so I might be counting some twice or missing some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony law Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 nice one .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 so cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I have a tank outside that has lots of java moss and mulm in it, the sunset wcmm are in there. It gets fresh water daily from the daphnia pond. I'm sure I can find a little heater around some where, about 40 ltrs good foot print. I have a cycled sponge filter too. Would it be better to put the minnows in another tank and try raise the fry in there? I would have to bring it inside but I can manually do the wc but I don't mind at all if there is more chance in raising some. I fear the return pump might get its fair share in the sump, as well as the mts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 WOW Exciting Stuff :bounce: Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li@m Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 very nice. goodluck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted February 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 They're so hard to spot, really the only way is to wait for them to move. As I have noticed with this batch they are far from lethargic, maybe the high water flow in the sump keeps them active. They are definitely growing too, and quite quickly. I hope they make the next 6 days I would really love a certificate for these guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 They're so hard to spot, really the only way is to wait for them to move. As I have noticed with this batch they are far from lethargic, maybe the high water flow in the sump keeps them active. They are definitely growing too, and quite quickly. I hope they make the next 6 days I would really love a certificate for these guys! edit - sorry it was supposed to be a pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 yeah this is true. I am paying my subs tomorrow so should make it in time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Good stuff. could be keen on buying a couple young ones off you in the future if they're for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 How many have you got left now?? Have you lost many?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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