Morcs Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Yeah looks good mate. Going with Limestone substate mixed with a lot of crushed oyster shell wouldve helped with the KH and PH nicely. You could just throw everything outta the tank and stick an Oscar in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracytrout Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Wish I could help you out with some replacments but I don't keep Africans "yet" . ANYONE out there happy to offer Phoenix some replacements or a cheap deal to replace what he lost?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Gutted mate Sorry to hear about that.. I hope no more die at least you still have enough dems and yellows for colonies of each? I did the same thing the other day my big tank got down to 15C just plugged the heaters back in and no losses, africans are pretty tough.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Thanks tracy. I dont mind paying the going rate for the fish, its just finding them at the moment. I think ill have to wait for a month. they guy I bought them off is real good. he will let me know in a month when he has some more growing. hey ryan - still have like 20 dems but only 5 yellows. 5 yellows are not enough. they are used to being in a large group so hide most of the time unless they are eating. Thanks for all the kind words everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandysme Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Hey Phoenix, tough luck aye, thats sad, what size are your yellows that you have at the moment, because you wont want little ones would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 they are between 4-6 cms. grew really fast too. :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Arg...that really sux! I'm so sorry But don't let it set you back. The tank is beautiful and it won't be long before you replace the missing yellows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 there was about a 24 - 36 hour period that they were in cold temp. i presume the temp raised up to 17 during the day as the lounge usually gets bathed in sunlight. thanks for the fish offer, but any thing small will get eaten as there is a syno and 12 clown loaches in there. ive been advised to leave the tank for a bit and grow them out, and then in a month if i can get some more fish i might. again, thanks for the offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 there was about a 24 - 36 hour period that they were in cold temp. i presume the temp raised up to 17 during the day as the lounge usually gets bathed in sunlight. thanks for the fish offer, but any thing small will get eaten as there is a syno and 12 clown loaches in there. ive been advised to leave the tank for a bit and grow them out, and then in a month if i can get some more fish i might. again, thanks for the offer. Keep checking your water parameters. After being cold for that period of time you may have also killed of your filter bacteria and your tank may go through another cycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 OMG! really? just gets worse doesn't it? well.. ive got a dozen cycle bottles somewhere... hahahaaa. oh no... that's not good at all. thanks for the heads up though. least now i know what to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 well i couldnt help my self today. got a whole lot of javafern microsporum, tropica and windelov i think it is and have it in my tank now. looks nice and green. i will see if i can keep it alive and then ill get more in the future maybe EDIT - whoops just realised that microsporum, and windelov are the same plant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 such a post dragger upper, but ive been asked to update with new pics by many so here goes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neon Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Looks nice with the java fern! Have you got an updated full tank pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Thanks! the lack of plant in the tank was driving me mental. 3 types of java fern in there now. hope these pics are ok. just took them. I also got a proper stand and hood for the tank, its pure black - but the tank will only be transferred on that at the end of the year when i move house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 So are africans better to watch than CAs and aggressive SA's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 erm.. yes and no really. they are not as spectacular as a flaring firemouth, but are way cooler than your average s. american cichlid - like angels, apistos and that sort. i still do like the american cichlids, but of all the africans the ones i really like are the male peacocks, yellows, dems and then there is the stuff we dont get here... i like some tangs like maleris and transpcriptus's cause they swim and do random upside down stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Wow. Very nice Phoenix! This is the only rocky tank with lake Cichlids in it that I can truely say I like. The Java Fern is different but looks awesome. Not surprised you couldn't resist having no plants, only my hospital tank is without plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Looks nice Phoenix. I love the colour of the dems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I like it better with the plants too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 erm.. yes and no really. they are not as spectacular as a flaring firemouth, but are way cooler than your average s. american cichlid - like angels, apistos and that sort. i still do like the american cichlids, but of all the africans the ones i really like are the male peacocks, yellows, dems and then there is the stuff we dont get here... i like some tangs like maleris and transpcriptus's cause they swim and do random upside down stuff. And also you can stock more of them a 4ft tank can only house 3-4 small americans like firemouths etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 ah yes. got to love aquatic plants. im considering getting a LOT of anubias species, and re planting the anubias hastifolia in the tank. And also you can stock more of them a 4ft tank can only house 3-4 small americans like firemouths etc. yeah, next tank shall be a pleco tank im currently building up those pleco numbers.Looks nice Phoenix. I love the colour of the dems aren't they just the neatest fish? I think I have 20 of the original 25 that I got, but now I can see 1 holding. I think its too late for me to add more, but ideally i would like some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 aren't they just the neatest fish? I think I have 20 of the original 25 that I got, but now I can see 1 holding. I think its too late for me to add more, but ideally i would like some more. would be cool if some of the babies survive :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 would be cool if some of the babies survive :bounce: like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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