Alan

Hi Matt, I get mine from Lake Rotoma by the boat ramp. Best time to get it is after there has been a storm come in from the south through to the west. It sorts itself into the grades that you require. From sand to 5mm. Alan 104

PJ, if you have a Killi number you are a member of the NZKA and as MA staes then a member of the Federation through that club. The clubs have to pay $5 of the entrants fees to the FNZAS (capitation fee) thereby making you a paid up member. Confirmation of this is when you get your Aquatic World and/or Year Book from Caryl, the Editor, who has been informed by Jane, the Treasurer of the FNZAS who has received your fee via the club that you belong to. By the way, last year when I bred some goldfish, I put the fry into an icecream container and took a pic of them just as backup if I was asked for confirmation. They were later witnessed by another club member so there was no problems there. Alan 104

Looks all good Kevan. Thanks for the reply. One correction there tho, or fleshing-out, the National B/S coordiator CAN register his/her fish that they have bred BUT they do not go forward on a points per trophy, but for personal attainment and numbers. Alan 104

Wont the fence that local govt require make it look wrong now Caryl. Or is that the "I didn't know anything about that" basket. Looks kewl tho Caryl, and look at all that lawn that will save you having to climb that hill each day mowing it. Can you find out what they used finally Caryl to repair,seal, the pond and actually how they did it?? Alan 104

The biggest 'fines" filter I've seen in NZ is viewable to the public when they do a 'behind the scenes' tour at the Napier N AquariumIt is a monster diatom filter where the powder isn't measured by the spoon but by the bags. Alan 104

Billarny said That rule refers to the NATIONAL B.A.C. who is Kevan Rowe of the Kapi Mana club. Before him Rob Torrens Before him Kelly Rennel Before him Alan Wakelin Before him Bill, sshheeze can't remember his name Seems strange that the club that he belongs to hasn't been informed by "the man at the top". Why not get in touch with your delegate to the Fed. to get in touch with the appropriate FNZAS officers to approach your problem and see if it can be rectified to your satisfaction. You seem to think that it is a benefit to the NZKA members above other FNZAS members. IT'S NOT It does however enable then to partake in the Scheme which is what it is all about. Alan 104

Paul you don't seem to undersand that all members are a breeding coordinator in the NZKA, due to the aforementioned facts. So it dows apply to all members of the FNZAS, in fact it is harder foe a NZKA member than a "normal" club member. The photographic evidence was suggested at the last FNZAS as an aid for those members who did not have access to a club breeding coordinator. The scheme is meant to encourage breeding of the different fish, for the benifit of the hobby, and trophies and rewards are there as an incentive. Concerning the member that was caught out, yes, I whole heartedly agree that the second place person would be a bit miffed. In fact very miffed, if I recall correctly, I was very very miffed. At one stage of the evolution of the Scheme, it was left to the rules of each club to work with. One club only had to have one fish, YES, one fish to qualify. Another club had to have their fish for 90 days, so you can see how things have gradually progressed from the beginnings. I would push each new club that joined into the rules that are basically what we have now, and then when Kelly Rennel took over from me, the first thing he did was to make ALL clubs have to follow the same rules. He was also the instigator of the certificates now available, and being computor literate worked out a brilliant way to correlate all the information. My efforts were done with a typewriter and lotsa paper and folders. I personally think that if the present scheme Coordinator could keep in touch via this forum and also with any entrants, more understanding of how things work would encourage more entries into the scheme. When I was coordinator, I was very aware that being in a priveledged position I had to tread very carefully and have an independant judge. This was done monthly by a member of the Waikato club who was a travelling salesman and used to call in here when in the area to check out the local successes. In fact it was him that pointed out that I had baby Ctenapoma ansorgi in my tank. So no one is being differently treated for their benefit. It all boils down to the fact that somehow, everyone is able to partake in the scheme. Alan 104

Take a minute from your busy breeding Paul and think of it. All clubs, except the NZKA have monthly meetings and are localised in their area. The NZKA: One meeting a year and scattered from Dunedin to Auckland to England. How pray tell me, does a breeding co ordinator selected by the club, check the members breedings?? The problem arose years ago when the only people to check were registered FNZAS judges. This was found to be quite ridiculous except in the bigger areas. We of course had more judges, but there was one Chch member who lived on the West coast. was a judge expected to travel that far to check his breedings. I don't think so. Another member that I know very well, lives in Whakatane, and his nearest judge was Tauranga, was that judge expected to to the two visits required to check a breeding of guppies, once again I think not. It was then agreed that the breedings could be checked by another member of the FNZAS, and as when a person joins the NZKA, so does the spouse automatically become a member of the club, (family member). This arose when there was a very prolific breeder near the bottom of the South Island who's nearest FNZAS member was in Dunedin, once again impractical for examination from an FNZAS member , so the Breeding scheme as slowly over the years evolved to what it is now. Those rules are for about 99% of the registered breeders at the moment, and the allowances for a lowly 1%, so now you see how it works for the "lonely ones". Alan 104

Peanut said As the club, other than the NZKA have a designated b/c or a delegate of him, these are the ones to check them. Quite a few years ago, a certain member had a "friend" check his fish and went on to win the trophy. I was asked by the clubs President to investigate the truth of the matter, and on going around with the Pres to the entrants place, found that it was impossible to have bred that number of fish, and didn't have half of the ones claimed. It was too late to take back the trophy but the said member was not affiliated to the FNZAS or his club again. When inviting the co ordinator to check the numbers, it is manners to have them in clear view to make the visit as short as possible, remembering that they do this in their own time. If you have them in a planted tank, catch out the required 10 plus fry and place in an icecream container. The parents must both belong to you and be in your possession at the time of free swimming. In other words you will not qualify if you go to the LFS and get a prego mollie or a carrying malawi or similar and have them drop in your tank. Likewise killi eggs from another member hatching does not constitute a breeding. The fish have to be in your possession when they lay the eggs. With some species of killi it is understood that the parents may no longer be alive at the required time. Allowance is made for this. Hope this helps for those that don't know, or who are new to the breeding programme, and remember, these fish can be bred again that year and be entered in the Rebreed Competion, and any following year after that, but only once a year, for this trophy. This competion was instigated to protect the hobby in case of the powers that be, close our borders down from imports. It could happen. Alan 104

As you are a member PJ of the NZKA, have you any other members down there? If so, they can vouch for you. If not, photograph of the fry at 30 days plus will do sentbto Kevan with the details. In fact any member of the FNZAS will do for your witness as well. NZKA being a postal club and having only one meeting a year, are the only ones that can register in this way. If you cheat, you are only cheating yourself. This is not addresed to you PJ but to those that read it. OKay?? Alan 104

Even unrinsed the amount of salt would be so infinitesimal, (small, that's easier to spell) that the salt wouldn't come into the equation, and even less so as you state that it was rinsed. Alan 104

Possibly cause with all the mucking around that his breeding has gone thru to develop the colouration, he may not be capable of breeding. Alan 104

Kewl Alan 104

In my opinion those two angels are the amount of fish you should have or get rid of them and increase the schools of glo-lights and neons to 6+ fish, each. When all is said and done, you only have approx 1 1/3 square feet surface area. Alan 104

Well excuse me Tanksman. That last effort of yours has lead you into a position where you owe a valuable member of this forum and the FNZAS an apology It was not the mod you think it was. It was me, Alan, and I don't tear off to "put rubbish" into the fun threads as I find I have better things to do. Like finding posts that have private informtion as per the rules, be it business or otherwise. Notice that after I did the edit I put down a suggestion to PM the original poster for the details of Greg. OK?? Now I await your reply to Caryl Alan 104

Tanksman, go back and read it for the 1,0000.001st time then, and you may just spot the quote above. Good grief, I see no inconsistancies with what has occured here. Alan 104

Is it an annual?? Alan 104

In my experience, if M&D are staying there after the eggs have disappeared, then the babies are there, under where they hatched prolly, and you'll see them shortly up in a cloud with the parents. They will stay there for a reason, but if the eggs were eaten they will carry on with life until next spawning time. Once again, I have noted about 14 days between spawns. Alan 104

same as a bird on a power line You are making the earth contact, so you feel it. Try turning off one appliance at a time to suss out the faulty one Alan 104

Email the pic to me and I'll post it for you Aquanut Alan 104

Ten guesses and we should have it huh?? constanciae?? Alan 104

Could you glue in a piec on the inside of the fitting and join it that way? Or would that cut down your volume too much?? Alan 104

and you should go along with what it represents too klay. Alan 104

Good on you Brian, I was waiting to see if you'd come in on here. Keep in touch. Alan 104

Sshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Alan 104