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Thats an expensive piece of cake...

Welcome, nice looking fish you have there.

I forgot to mention that I find a bubble nest in mine a few times a year (I have one male gourami, He has problems...)

I use indian fern as a floating plant. It looks cool, especially when when it gets larger.

I supose that is one way to catch them, but isn't it more fun to chase them fruitlessly around the tank for hours?

I have seen that already thanks, I found it while googling.

So what temperature would you recommend for them?

Is there still cake if we go to bad food restaurant?

I will be able to if I am not working. Also have to work out how to get to where ever it is held...

If you are planning the next meeting, does that mean you are going to let me join now? What sort of cake is it? A crab cake? Taco? What about a guitar? Or will it just be a cupcake?

Ordered a new poly today from animates, delhezi this time instead of a Senegal that jumped. Also I find midnight feedings are fun.

Don't the chain loaches want warmer water though.

The flow is fast, especially at the out flow. Sand would not last long, it would all get piled at the far end, the stones that are in there at the moment have been moved about 5cm away from the exit. Might think about dwarf chain loaches at a latter date, at the moment I am wanting hillstream loaches.

I was going to set the pump up out of the tank with a spray bar, but when I went to the local hard ware store today they didn't have the right size tubing so being impatient as I am I couldn't wait for pipe to set it up. I don't mind it as is, it holds up the rocks nicely, but when I get a bigger tank I definitely will be setting it up with a spray bar.

Rummaging under the house today I found an old tank of mine, and as you do when you find a new tank you have to set it up. So I put it on my desk and found it was a perfect fit (ok, I could fit a bigger one on there). So I have been wanting to set up a hillstream loach tank for a while, and now I have the tank for it. The tank is 40L, a bit small for the loaches, but I am planning on upsizing it in the future once I have had some experience in them. Excuse the dirty glass, I thought I had cleaned it well enough, turns out I hadn't. Because of the fish the water wanted to be fast flowing, so I found an old pump from my pond, rated at 1100L/h, but I don't think it is doing any more then 800 at the most. And in the tank: (excuse the bad photo) So my first though was just to have the bottom river stones so it was a fast flowing river look, but once I had found the stones in the garden and put them in I found it looked horribly out of proportion: So instead I went for a different design: I had two sorts of gravel that I could use, I chose the large one, but do people think I should use the small gravel? Tank with stones in it, (sorry about blur): And view with it full of water: And bonus view of what it looks like from the back (my bed): So what do people think of the aqua scape so far? I am thinking about putting a bit of driftwood in to take up some of the large open bit of water. Also I am thinking of using live filtration by putting a Peace lily in the back ground, so its roots will be dangling in in the water looking cool. Either that or I might put a hob filter on it. The next thing I do once I have given some time for the algae to get established (or when my patience runs out) is get the fish. I was going to get some from animates or hff, but after a seach of this site led me to this thread I am thinking about getting some cooler looking ones, and was wondering if any one knew where I could get them?

Temperature gradients could be a little problem, but not that it would be a major problem. Oxygen due to little water movement could be a problem, That depends on your stocking and what plants you have. The bio filter will be the main problem, if the filter drains and dries out your bio filter will die every night. Also with out water cycling through the filter ammonia will build up in the tank. Other then that I have tanks in my room and I don't mind the sound of moving water.

$120 for 3 medium-large sized oscars seems a little steep to me.

Not just you, I can't either. Guess I will just have to resign myself to not being able to double vote.

What ornaments, substrate, and other things that could be leaching chemicals into the water do you have? What is the pH of your tap water? Any other new things you have done?

That sounds like the perfect way for me to get a double vote, if the website decides to let me vote.

But it is not letting me vote yet?

Definitely do the african, sounds way cooler.

Thats good they arrived, are they looking healthy, or are they looking really bad?

Congratulations, glad to help.

Cool thanks for that. But I like keeping my fish, not cooking them (especially when restricted to cooking them in the oven only). Although I do have a good recipe for baked oscar with lemon....