sneaky2

The exception seems to be tortoise,been in nz 100 odd years,i used to be able to buy an adult male for around $500 13 or so years ago,same thing anywhere from $3000 up today. i would assume fertility low as were not triping over them when walking down the street... and demand high because of tm e.c.t 13 /20 years ago only a handfull of keepers n breeders,not many people even new they were here.

:lol:

supposedly alive and well in the coromandle ranges....I would assume here and there in private collections around nz. :lol:

Henward re your comment(And sneaky: I don't know whos side you are on. But the end of the day, taking haisley side, either means you are his friend, or you are stupid. the guy was arrested for obtaining and owning and trying to sell illegal animals!! for crying out loud.) I don't believe there are sides.in fact if as hobbyists we split into sides,then in the long run we are all screwed...I would predict that within ten to fifteen years all reptiles on (the list) will be declared unwanted organisms!!! if we don't unite as hobbyists. I am very interested in the legal aspect of this bumbling persecution(not prosecution) the facts should be made public.if nothing changes then it could be me ,you or anyone next!

to quiet for me, im going back to my drum kit :lol:

gone a bit quiet :bounce:

What,What ???? no freedom of speech?????

time + kids = gray area :lol:

alot of inland beardies trying to brumate this time of year,if it has good condition dont worry about it,turn the heat down an let it sleep

has there been a new development? last i herd it was a very gray area....

doncha mean veiled chameleon

turn the heat up then...lol :lol:

This is one of me male waterdragons.....called male waterdragon!

How come i didnt get a visit? feeling a bit left out shure they would love to come see me 5m salty crocks! :lol:

waterdragons ok in auckland...

true true,all these years i thought i was breeding :lol: after watching the beardies i wouldnt call what thery were doing mating, more like another word starting with R :lol:

me coastal beardies were fighting and breeding today,i dont think the waterdragons will be to far behind.

are they coastals or inland?

bwa ha haaa..... naaaaa! me latest findings are that coastal beardies are active colder than W.D.... while everthing else is snoozing the coastals are still active....feedback from aus says they mate in july n hide from aussie summer!

me coastals are bobbing out side already,just verry sloooowwwwllllyyy...

is it just me or is it really quiet out there?

maby liquifyed carrot

do you have any idea of the impact of your handle????? irony you may think....i assume you still have both upper limbs??? :evil:

dont know the weight,easy 2 man lift...would be a bit cramped to live in,maby the bigger enclosure :lol:

i wouldnt hesitate to hose it down inside and out, outside as it stands.if inside i would put a liner inside first. but even then i dont think i would put a hose on it as water would spray out the mesh an all over the wallpaper :lol: its built out of 18mm construction ply with seal coats of paint so yes it will handle being hosed down.