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They can be fickle, ie; need to be kept in very clean water. People I know that have had them, treat them like discus. This link should make for good reading... http://www.wetpetz.com/uaru.htm Frenchy

Nice one Lynn. Part of the article I don't agree with in the link. I will go by what I have last read, referenced too. I came across that picture in a George W Barlow book. "The Cichlid Fishes. Natures Grand Experiment in Evolution." That picture originally comes from Axel Meyer. "Trends in Ecology & Evolution" Phylogentic relationships & evolutionary process in east African cichlid fishes. The figure in George Barlows, has this under the picture. FIGURE 12.2 The independently evolved cichlids in Lake Tanganyika{left} & Lake Malawi{right} have converged on remarkably similar forms.{courtesy of Axel Meyer} The chapter in this book goes for 30 pages. Dam good read, very interesting... try to brake down too a few points. Lake Tangy 6 Million years old Lake Malawi 1-2 Million years old Lake Victoria 12400 years old. It was dry for a few thousand years before that. Lake Malawi, made up of mostly haplochromines,{Mbuna, Utaka...} in fact genetic study revealed this stems back to a single lineage. The other few stem back to Tilapiines. Other scientists suggest, the single lineage could be wrong, but all are still haps. Lake Tangy has 12 different lineages or tribes. 8 of those are found exclusively in Lake Tangy. Haplochromines only make up about 5% of species. Lake Victoria has 2 tribes, one tilapiines, the other haplochromines. Now Victoria has as many as 500 different species in just 12400 years. The DNA of 14 species of 9 endemic genera was analyzed, the variation among the species was less than within our own species, Homo sapiens. Anyone that has kept Victorain cichlids, will have noted they are all very similar. They may have evolved different shape heads, but their bodies have remained relatively unaltered. Yet Lake Malawi is mostly Haps too & look at the differences. Both head shape & body shape. Anyway, a point you can take from the link, is think about this. Nothing else in Lake Malawi looks like a C. moorii, same can be said for Fronnies in Lake Tangy. Yet they do look similar & they are in different Lakes. Thats the biggy, all these fish in the srticle look similar, are in different lakes, the pics are there to show similarities. How can that be true? If Lake Tangy is the oldest, & is made up of all these different lineages, mentioned above & only 5% haps. If Lake Malawi is mostly Haps only, stem beck to only one line or a few. When you also note that Utakas stem from Haps too. His pictures in the link, eg; show comparsions of non haps to haps too. Someone link him George's book. Frenchy

Looks like it could be a S.fryeri, can you get a nice side on pic. Frenchy

It is. If you keep them in a colony on their own, then you don't even have to do that. Frenchy

Great another species of fish with no variant. WTF is going on with importers over there? I mean really, there are so many exporters in Asia that use full scientific names. Yellow tail & blue tail dosen't narrow it down at all too. Cichlid livestock sales through lfs in Aussie make up 2-3%. Most lfs here only stock the basics; ie; colourful cichlids. Dry goods, feeders, goldfish, tropical fish all sell better than cichlids. Most people here once into the hobby buy cichlids privately. Yes convicts are easier to breed. Just usually people that buy leptos... tend to be more in the they sort of know what they are doing basket. Frenchy

They should work well for you Eric. As for the question at start of topic, as above answers. Frenchy

Eyes can be a hard one. Check this page & match up what best fits...hope it helps http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/fish_diseases/eyes.html Frenchy

Did you OOA? nice one. Just wondering, if you bred heaps, shouldn't there be plenty around? IMO, they aren't hard to keep or breed. :-? Frenchy

Put it back in the water. The thing is turtles need calcium for their shells. That is the important thing. Your water being 0.3 over ideal isn't something to worry about. http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/waterchemistry.htm Frenchy

Ok, lets see how long we can push this joke for. Disease section....... Can someone help me, my skippy looks a little run down & not very active. He is covered white dots, what should I do? :-? Here is a pic. Please help. Frenchy

What is in the medicine is fine. That is mainly because some different medicines{chemicals} can have a bad reaction. Frenchy

Does it matter that your water is 7.8? Frenchy

So was I :lol: Hang on, got to give it one attempt Then again I saw this in the Trading Post over here too. Frenchy

Depends if they are used to the light or not. I hardly turn on the light to my 4x2 in the bedroom. When I do they all shoot & hide. {probably see what i really look like :lol: } I just drop some food in there, they all come out & eat & realise all is fine & go back to normal. Frenchy

There should be a muliti-cure product in your lfs. That will do the trick. Frenchy

Nice cobalts too. Frenchy

Brad mentioned to me that someone from the FNZAS came in for a bo-peep. Did you have a good holiday? See anything you would like to take home, fish wise that is. Frenchy

Just made the pic bigger, so easier to see. Frenchy

Now that would of really tested the strength of the tank Frenchy

This is Brads brother when they first put the big tanks in at his lfs.... :lol: From the site; wow they have 2 years now Frenchy

Student & Pension card now aye Alan Frenchy

:lol: When I have bought fish in the past, if it looked half fancy, I got "how much did that cost?" :lol: The guy looks after me 8) As time went on, its a case of I sold some of these{fry} & had so much credit I thought I get these. So it cost me nothing :lol: Frenchy

They were Alan. Just not that common a fish here. Most people are into Malawis or the really exotic. Leptos should be more popular here. I bought these off Brad, via a breeder cheaper than if I went direct to a wholesaler. Brad sells these to general public for cheaper than wholesale, they are just not that popular. Fish keepers here are boring, or just very tight fisted. :roll: I have had the Malasa variant before, about 5 years ago, moved them on when I went more Malawi. Just I never really wanted to upset the white calvus. Now they are well established size wise, they breed with yo yo's in there no dramas & I have other alto's breeding in the 4x2x2 with mixed mbunas{yellows, aceis & demasoni} so I 4x15x18 with a trio of Whites & colony of lepto's should be sweet. {touch wood lol} Frenchy

Either they have called the electric blue the wrong name, or they are talking about one of the blue peacocks, like neon blue, nyasse... Frenchy

Mine still look like dullish sardines :lol: Couple of males have a little colour. Will add photos in a couple of weeks when added to the Whites & have settled. Hopefully someone breeds them over there. Nice fish for the tangy collection. Frenchy