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No to L142/LDA33 Not Hypancistrus Not a pseudacanthicus - is a "thorn" Mouth is quite unique

They came in as L128 - obviously not No not Maccus Sorry KP no in water shot.

I had one Zebra with 4 Angelicus for ages. the zebras will get far larger but still get on fine in my experience.

I would have thought the further we got from the the topic and thereby finding a correct ID would actuallysuit the poster, if history is anything to go by. "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story"

Did you check for shot gun wounds.? Sounds like there may have been some fighting in there. Was he the father of babies> I'm guessing not.At 3cm he was a non threatening juvie but at 8cm he was competition. ###EDIT- just read your post properly and see he was DAD### So then nxt question-how big is other male? Checking along the side of the body for any marks of apparent runbbing is where I'd be looking first. The males will predominantly fight using the spikey odontodes at the end of the pectoral fin and will inflict damage making a wound from one little spike hole that you can't even see to ripping open the entire side of a body. How many caves in the tank? What you need is more females than males otherwise this will happen. Also more than one female is a good idea to stop him from concentrating all his hormones just on her. I have a few spare females 8-10cm you can have if you can get to Pakuranga and pick her up sometime. PM if interested.

Ahhh! My apologies- Less wood and more heavy Rock

No it has lots of whisky's around its cheeks that keep it warm also need lots of wood- mostly Oak and peat

Your kidding- You have one of these? I know them only by their common name "red eye, green skin" plec AKA "Hangover" plec. Shhhhh!- Maf may be watching

Maleri "Gold".( one of "Tropheus's) typical maleri-thinks he own the tank. i have a young rubescens that i would like to add but kinda of thinking he may be lowest in the pecking order, particularly in that colour so will hold off. In the shot he's giving the Baenschi a shoo away, he's always up front almost leaping at me when it food time which ever tank he's in.

Oops! So disturbed I posted twice

If I buy the fish will you guys stop before his thread gets any scarier

Thats her. Another male Cat Nav!

Cheers! for comment Did change around Saturday. Was tempted to put a group of yellows or Dems around rocks. Seems to work well without. Nice and gentle And this girl has the rule of the bottom.

few more

Decided to chuck a few a my males that were in various tanks and breeding setups together into a 300l tank . My plan has always been to work toward an al male tank with peacocks and some of the more Benign Hap species. They are still settling in so plenty of raised eyebrows ( if they had eyebrows), but no real aggression to speak of. Most the peacocks are still quite young and the haps a little older. Couple of Randoms in as well. Have a couple of other peacocks to add but thought I'd see how these guys worked.

Don't know what you are selling but I am in awe of your obvious knowlege of this fish. please don't try to qualify your ID- It is totally unnecessary I am willing to pay double your asking price. You are amazing. Clearly the most exceptional breeder this country has known. Please can you set up an auction for Pseudotropheus sp. "flying Pig" I 'm sure that if you don't have one, you can find one for me, or a photo at least. I wouldn't dare question the similarity of photo and fish. You're the Man! Ps- do you like foot massages

As above E yellows are a great additon to any tank because as Smidey has said they are great at ignoring tankmates and doing their own thing. Its up to what your after. I still go for the concept of building such a tank from ground up. If you can Start with juvies of fish and grow them up then you chance for harmony is greatly increased. although in a 200l tank I would tend to avoid mixing too many genus's as Tracy and Steve can do in 700l. Particularly the larger mbuna( red and blue zebras, bumblebees, auratus) and larger haps( Nimbochromis) as you will encounter probs down the track. Fry I have that i think would work in that setup are: E yellows, Copadichromis Azureus, Chilumba peacock, ruby red peacock, Red empress, a few left of young Baenschi and Electras. Jacobfreibergi fry -2 females holding so a little ways away I don't know Afras that well but suspect they would be much like Dems. As for catfish. Common Bn's or GBA will do OK if not too much competiition for territory from mbunas. I be tempted to go one show syno. I have one 18cm Angelicus in a male peacock tank and I love her. Or a group of smaller syno's like petricola or Multipunctata(cuckoo)-I have some juvies of these( cuckoo) also. Fancy plecs can be Ok depending on tankmates. I be looking at things like the bigger blue phantoms that are around, hypostumus cochliodon,Hemiancistrus Sabaj. Magnums, Goldies, gold nuggets, or a established panaque like Royal or Bruno( not the smaller one (panagolus). All these are fine if the rockwork isn't a combat zone and all would require some wood in the tank.

My guess Unknown mbuna- probable hybrid ( given our history of mbunas) that looks like Saulosi male.

I look at forums where someone has six shell dwellers tangs in 400l and that is huge. Same forum had 900 gallon tank with 30 Big malawi piscivores and that is large. L128's bred only once in captivity and that was a 10,000 ltr tank at berlin zoo so that was adequate. two 25cm L25 Scarlets bred in a 2ft tank in Japan and that is a Jail. I started with a huge 100ltr tank yet my 600l tank now is small.

Yay ! Party at Mike's place Nav and I'm the Dj Oh to have my boy still

Thats why I don't buy any of your Labs Mark

LAST THING WE NEED IS ANOTHER 'CLONE'

Mate! if you weren't from the Bay and weren't into fishing then I would be surprised. just be careful where you put that light saber.

I wonder if someone questioned ID so it was pulled

So you putting a premium on Virgins then.