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i am sure ur have them breeding again in no time. the little guys look so cute. how do u find those breeding traps?

hay rcon021, i know they're the same species and all but has anyone u heard of successfully spawned L226?

this is IMO the best planted discus tank i've seen. scrow down the pages. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/9-vt10 ... &start=120 http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/7-vt10 ... c&start=90 http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/6-vt10 ... c&start=75 http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/5-vt10 ... c&start=60

update!! any changes since u last posted?

u sure? i recall somebody here has a small one in their tank with out a one

hah :lol: :lol: Thanks heaps

now thats a good idea, i second that

i've PM u both their details and more with tips on getting the best tank at best price

u dont need one. i cant think of any type of freshwater fish that needs it.

should be fine and a temporary thing with it half filled. wouldn't risk it as a permit set up with that size tank and 3cm back and front is a bit much.

for freshwater?

cool!! do u know the link to those articles?

first 3 pics are under ground filter so yes "under pebble bubble thing". u connect the air hose to the hole in ur first pic of cause thats assuming u have an air pump. last photo is a filter and if it doesn't run or make a noise while plugged in and make sure u have the filter submerged while u do this then yes its stuffed.

i find JBL pleco chips absolutely rubbish and most of them dont sink. does anyone else have this problem?

that would make more like a rapid :lol: :lol: i do have a 8000L pump sitting around :lol: :lol:

no this breed is not new at all, the reason u cant find any info on breeding is because its never been done before. bit tricky with just 2 so u'll need to make sure they're a true pair. i know they would have been sold to u as a pair but u would be surprised the times they turn out not to be. especially with these as they're pretty hard to sex. trick with breeding any fish is to give them the environment they would normally live in the wild then put them though the seasons to trigger the spawning. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/rivert ... 17135.html

nope i have 5 and not from Phil as i cant afford his prices :lol: :lol: but they're most properly imported by him to start with.

thanks evil yeah irrigation pipe would differently be stronger but mite be a little bit too thin? really depends on the intake of the powerhead too. the L226 have been in the tank since August and i've been putting them though a dry season till just over 2 weeks ago. they've have all the signs of spawning but nothing yet. doing water changes everyday since last week as suggested by another pleco breeder and it seem to be creating more interest, they've been chasing and what looks to be spawning all the time. hopefully they would breed but who knows as they've never been done before.

i thought i'll so something different for my 1000's post. WOW i post a lot!!! average 4 post a day. hope i dont talk too much Cr@p :oops: rivertank= tank with a continuous one directional flow of water. i am goin to do a very simple walk though on the steps i took in building this river tank. its an 2.5' X 1' X 1' tank. this particular tank is build for Plecos. [5 X L226] equipment needed: tank, clear tube, double sponge filter, pump/powerhead, saw or scissors, substrate of ur choice and 1 X L joint. this is done on the cheap but u can do this on a much larger scale and replace clear tubing with PVC pipes. u could also make ur own sponge filter intake by drilling multiple holes into the pipe or have multiple sponge filter with a larger powerhead.........skys the limit. first i have to straighten the clear piping and i did this by sticking a piece of bamboo though it then pour boiling water over it quickly followed by cold water this setting the pipe straight. i used a fluval double sponge filter and just replaced the original piping with the clear tube shown below. now cut the tubing to the length of the tank, leaving enough room to accommodate the size of ur powerhead. connect the L joint to the other end and add an piece of tubing to the height u want ur powerhead to be. i started the tank with sand base just because i had some lying around so its really not needed. its that easy now u have the intake on one side and powerhead on the other. i then over the piping with peat as these particular plecos comes from the back waters of peru where the water is very soft and most properly tanned. i then sprayed the peat wet so it doesn't float when i fill the tank up. instead of peat u could use all sand or just straight to gravel. for a planted tank use proper planting mix. final layer i used fine gravel. if ur goin to use peat u would have to have another layer on top to avoid a mess with floating bit of peat. now u can fill the tank up and attach the powerhead and heater if needed. i used a cheap 800L/h Nova pump. added some plants and fish to help cycle the tank. best to use a powerhead with adjustable flow because u might find the ur flow is too strong and the current is hitting the other side and bouncing back rather than though the intake. to test if ur river tank is successful put a piece of cork or something similar and see if it floats to the end and stays there if it does then SUCCESS!! if it hits the end and bounce back then current is too strong or not enough intake, if the cork don't make it to the end the u need a stronger powerhead. i then added more half pots as caves as i dont have enough drift/bog wood. this pic is 1 week later then 2 weeks later. the tanks has been set up for a few months now and the system works great. wouldn't change anything to it but would strongly suggest to use PVC piping if u can just to make the overall system stronger as i am finding the soft tubing easily be pulled up if ur not careful while taking the sponge out for cleaning. i have most properly missed something or are unclear at explaining certain areas so all question and comments are welcome

Yes open on top and yes side to adjust the flow. u need to get a needle valve $15 from a model hobby shop. one more post to 1000

i'll be really intrested in a few bottles and regs depending what type they are. i think u need to be a bit more specific. from what i understand the 20Oz bottles would need an adaptor? what type of reg? gauge, duel gauge, plastic/metal gauge, built in needle valve, bubble counter, solenoid...............etc cuz if its just a simple 20Oz bottle with no adaptor and just a small reg with no gauge like the ones on tools on line then it can already be done for around $80 - $100 u mean a in line CO2 reactor.

what brand of bulbs are u talking about? true for some brands not true for others. also better to ask for Ks rather than "day light" "neutral white" "warm white" as these terms are determined by each company while day light could be 3000K for one and 5000K for the other. did we get any info on those bulbs TM?

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sounds like ur doing everything right. keep up with the salt bath and add melafix in the main tank to help her heal. are there plenty of place for her to hide in the tank if she needs to? feeling save and unstressed is a big help. usually fin rot and fungus is a sign of poor water condition. make sure the water is really clean. good luck

saw, square, level, clamp and tape measure.