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I had problems with it too it turned out to be phosphates change my food and feeding regime and it went away.. What are you feeding and how much of it? Are you doing regular maintenance water changes etc?

Yeah its not actually that hard to do good luck and nice looking fish.

awesome its a shame you wont ship I might be keen on some babies they're very nice looking fish..

Awesome looks like she has a good mouth full too... Hope she goes the distance for you.. Are those the jakes off the list?

Have seen it in african tanks and it does sink Jewelz has it in her tanks I think she got it waterlogged from deep in lake Taupo when she was diving..

lol all sorts of options Lionheads are a cool fish also

I have kept kribs in my full african setups before they they have done well.. You could get the ph to around 7.5 and it would work for both, I never bothered and they were ok You have the advantage of having a big enough tank to have alot of options.. you could go down the community tank way.. Or down the african cichlid way full it up with yellows and demasoni Someone has to try and get more dems than evil

If you already have a couple of pairs in there I would say no.. They can get pretty agro when breeding and if you ended up with 2 spawn's at either end of the tank it wouldn't leave much room for any other cichlids in a 3ft tank.

Where is that?

Saw these guys at wetpets, I hate the things.. But I guess they must be selling otherwise they wouldn't be there! I hope if your buying them they last longer than the blue rams especially if your forking out the $$ for 1M 4F... I wouldn't think they will last long because they just an inbred mutation and would probably have the same problems as the blue's only time will tell I guess. Does anyone have access to proper gold rams? I have seen them only a few times seem to be pretty hard to get hold of and alot nicer than the balloon ones

lol yeah thats what I thought which is why I stopped posting Good luck oscarboy

I dont think it would work trying to grow them that size in a 20L tank, by the time they get to 2cm you would have another brood too.. Could you imagine 40-60 yellows trying to grow in a 20L tank? It just wouldn't work..

Very short term for the babies ideally you need a 3ft to grow them out well thats what I use anyway, even when small the yellow babies can scrap a bit and if you get 20-30 in a brood of yellows they can produce a bit of waste and flowl the water getting stunted very fast.

Yeah trademe is pretty bad for that sort of thing.. I haven't been done with fish because I will happily tell someone where to go if they sell me the wrong fish lol The person has changed their auction and is auctioning the salvini and JD separately so guess its all good They're confused how the fish got mixed up.. Does sound weird guess the person who sold them the fish mixed them in the first place..

a 20L tank is a bucket not big enough for a breeding pair of yellow's sorry to say.. I would say minimum 2ft but even that might be too small the tank they are in is the same as one of mine and is about 170L 3ft so yeah probably wouldn't go smaller than that, 2ft is probably the minimum for growing africans out around 1.5cm's mine go into that sized tank.

a 20L tank is a bucket not big enough for a breeding pair of yellow's sorry to say.. I would say minimum 2ft but even that might be too small the tank they are in is the same as one of mine and is about 170L 3ft so yeah probably wouldn't go smaller than that, 2ft is probably the minimum for growing africans out around 1.5cm's mine go into that sized tank.

Provided one of them backs down it should all end well

Would say so it always surprises me what fish are tough and what ones are soft.. Its not always the biggest or a male thats in charge!

Yes you can feed meat and food like that and your fish will grow faster, however there has been alot of discussion around about the long term health problems of power feeding your fish all this meat from warm blooded animals (beef heart etc). The theories go somewhere along the lines of fish are cold blooded animals (temp is regulated by the environment they live in) and cows are warm blooded animals, the problem is supposed to be when you feed fish warm blooded meat they cant process the fat in it and it builds up in their liver eventually giving them liver disease etc, so they grow faster but don't live as long.. Unsure if this has any merit but it sounds like good reasoning to me. Guess it is just like the bloodworm debate.. People have always and probably will always continue to feed both where I wont touch them As for what foods are good, I have seen shrimp recommended as they are both salt water (cant carry anything that will affect our fresh water fish) and cold blooded.

lol don't get me started on the pulcher v brichardi debate.. :roll: My first guess was blue acara when I saw the pic but I really had no real idea, JD sounds promising too.. Will tell them that and see what they say, dont really want to be stirring but I hate things being sold as what they're not most of us know what they are but what if someone buys them researches brichardi breeds them and sells them on everyone gets mixed up and to top it off they are 2 different fish!

lol I knew someone would say it and I should have known it would have been you Just cracks me up how the person found a link to a profile on cichlid forum for brichardi but didn't look at the fish int he pictures on the profile and go hmm those aren't the same fish as mine and do some more research..

Just wondering what these fish are.. Bottom pic looks like salvini, and the assumption would be the top is also but it doesn't have a line down it? I am going to post a trademe link but it is my understanding that as it is not my link and we are discussing the item for sale (and helping the future buyer and the seller) I think it should be ok? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Home-living/Pe ... 996552.htm

ditto also ill be out of the country at the time too, good luck its always hard with animals esp fish and going away..

That clip is awesome its amazing the footage they manage to get! Good luck with the fish man, either way let me know would purchase either off you

Agreed with Ira more food more water changes the highest quality food will also help and I would recommend variety to ensure they get all the stuff they need to grow fast.. Live food would help but depends on its nutritional value..