The "cuba" came from Singapore and the others are on that site that if mentioned brings about excommunication, from time to time. I am hoping to have some less common Echinodorus sp on that (whisper) site over the next few months. E.G uruguayensis, red special, red rubin, ozelot, leopard, cordifolius, marble queen, barthii, martii, etc. And with any luck horizontalis maybe next year. Some of these plants may be available from me and Amazonian by puting a bid on the tank for auction.