I have been trying (unsuccessfully) for many weeks to get australe chocs and golds to produce a few eggs. After no luck with a number of pairs of mature well conditioned chocs I set up my mature gold female with a randy little teenager that grew up from eggs donated by Barrie. Day 1,2,3,4 bought an increasing leval of frustration and mumbling and today they produced 18 eggs. So they can hear those rude words that I was mumbling towards them. They could be on daphnia and soft lighting tonight.