dragonz1833 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 screw nz for not letting us have snakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 screw nz for not letting us have snakes :sml1: agreed lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!CrunchBang Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 screw nz for not letting us have snakes Yeah, but there is a reason for not having them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getarealdog Posted November 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Yeah, but there is a reason for not having them. & that is? Would of thought the zoos could have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 They'd eat the dottrels and the kiwi eggs and scare everyone.... :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!CrunchBang Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Yeah, that. It's because our native animals don't think "Oh, that will eat me, better run away" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reuben.a Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Well people brang in cats, dogs, rats etc that are the leading cause of the die offs of many native species so whats the harm in a few tropical reptiles that wont survive in our climate anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#!CrunchBang Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 From what I've read, there is some reptile and amphibian disease that we don't have in NZ. Cats and dogs can be because they are domesticated, which you can't really do with herps. You could import tropical herps but you'll have to pay for the science to prove they won't become a pest and will die outside. Lets face it, we'll always have to be jealous of those who can keep what we can't, until someone spends the money so we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Well people brang in cats, dogs, rats etc that are the leading cause of the die offs of many native species so whats the harm in a few tropical reptiles that wont survive in our climate anyway? Why would you bring something that wouldn't survive? That's not in the best interest of the pet or the owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Things that survive in our climate when they turn feral and live on native lizards, frogs and birds are a threat to our native species. Animals that cannot survive are not a threat if released. The common threat is diseases that can be carried by these animals. Mrs Google sits on the right hand side of god's mother in law so do a google search on "zoonotic diseases carried by cats" It may awaken some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Well people brang in cats, dogs, rats etc that are the leading cause of the die offs of many native species so whats the harm in a few tropical reptiles that wont survive in our climate anyway? And those people thought whats the harm in bringing those animals in, the past is there to learn from, only stupid people keep repeating mistakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getarealdog Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Some of my Death Adders. Cape Crawford Cape Crawford Sydney Red Sydney Red Dajarra & 1 of her babies from this season at 1 week old & the rest of them Woodlands Red Woodlands Grey Camooweal Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculator Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Drool, making me wish even more that we could keep snakes in nz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 baby snakes! do you breed the rats as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getarealdog Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 baby snakes! do you breed the rats as well? Thats the down side to keeping snakes, the time needed to look after the rodents. Often you spend more time on them than you do with your collection. My kids used to breed them but then they woke up! I have 3 breeders over here who look after me. There is money in breeding rodents for the reptile market over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 and then there's the 'what if the snakes got into the mouse farm' scenario :lar: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Love the woodlands, how and do you handle them at all? i never went into the venomous end of things, the wife would probably have left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getarealdog Posted November 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Love the woodlands, how and do you handle them at all? i never went into the venomous end of things, the wife would probably have left. All my adders are handled via a snake hook, 2 hooks used on the bigger females. Spend most of their time in plastic tubs & is easy to place another tub next to theirs on the floor & simply hook them over. Very easy to maintain like this when you have a few (around 30 adders). I do have some display enclosures that I use for them to "holiday in" & for mating. Always said I wouldn't do the venomous but as time goes by my direction changed & now have 80 odd venomous snakes & 6 pythons. Wife has no interest but hopes I do the right thing in maintaining them & my own safety. Full respect is given to all my venomous snakes. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotealotl Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Spend most of their time in plastic tubs What a wonderful life... :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getarealdog Posted November 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 What a wonderful life... :-? And your point is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotealotl Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 And your point is? hi, my point is why keep venomous snakes if you can't held them in an environment that comes close to their natural habitat ? what a wonderful life that must be for a snake sitting on news paper, looking at four white walls under a white lid which every now and then opens and a rat falls from the sky. my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 State of the art breeding facility of BHB aka SnakeBytes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotealotl Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I know, but I still don't have to agree with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 That kinda reminds me of battery hen farms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reuben.a Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 What a wonderful life... :-? as long as their needs are met, then plastics containers aren't a problem in my opinion. obviously they still need room but plastic tubs are at times a better choice than big bulky glass or wooden enclosures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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