GrahamC Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 http://www.infonews.co.nz/news.cfm?id=97184 The 25cm goldfish found by a pair of Blenheim schoolboys in one of the Taylor River inlets last week underlines the risks that ornamental fish and aquarium weed pose to our natural waterways. .. “The message is clear: don’t flush away unwanted fish and don’t dump fish or weeds directly into the drains or the rivers and streams.” Any unwanted fish and aquarium plants can be bought to the Council for disposal. They may also be put into the compost or put out in the household rubbish collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 :an!gry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Do you imagine that the fish that you buy to eat has been humanely euthanised or just left to die out of the water? Does a fish need to be christened and given a christian (or muslim) burial, depending on what part of the world they are from? My dead fish end up in the rubish or on the compost heap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Do you imagine that the fish that you buy to eat has been humanely euthanised or just left to die out of the water? Does a fish need to be christened and given a christian (or muslim) burial, depending on what part of the world they are from? My dead fish end up in the rubish or on the compost heap. Dead fish you said. What about live ones you don't want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Clearly no one wants a dead fish. So, unwanted refers to live fish. The story leads with a tale of a live 25 cm gold fish found in the river inlet. Here's the original article ... anyone living in the Marlborough region want to comment? http://www.marlborough.govt.nz/Your-Cou ... -Risk.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepsnana Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Do you imagine that the fish that you buy to eat has been humanely euthanised or just left to die out of the water? Does a fish need to be christened and given a christian (or muslim) burial, depending on what part of the world they are from? My dead fish end up in the rubish or on the compost heap. My fish get a few words. Dead fish you said. What about live ones you don't want? They find new homes. No one is ever left behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I must be missing something - how is that you can flush a fish down the toilet and find it in a river? Don't city/town toilets flush into sewers and then out to treatment plants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepsnana Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 If Gambusia, Rudd or Koi Carp were to get established in Marlborough waterways, it could devastate our whitebait fishery. That should say it could devastate our whitebait not it could devastate our whitebait fishery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I must be missing something - how is that you can flush a fish down the toilet and find it in a river? Don't city/town toilets flush into sewers and then out to treatment plants? In the recent past untreated human waste has been discharged into coastal Wgton waters ( Moa Point I think ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 When I was in Wellington in 1971 the sewage discharged to the sea at Pencarrow. It would be hard for a freshwater fish to end up in a river from there. The point I was trying to make was that if a live unwanted fish was put in the trash it would be treated in the same way as all the thousands of tonnes of fish caught for human consumption in NZ which are just removed from the water and allowed to die. It is OK to "play" a game fish for hours on a hook and line but if you did it with a bird you could be prosocuted. Most sewerage systems have an overflow to rivers or the sea in cases of emergency such as during the disruptions to the system here during the recent quakes. There were signs all along the rivers warning of sewage contamination and to avoid contact with the water. Fishing was banned also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Still nothing compared to the environmental damage done by cats.... Ban goldfish, bring in more tropicals, win/win! :thup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotealotl Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Still nothing compared to the environmental damage done by cats.... too many suporter and cat lover out there... :an!gry ...bring on the CAT REGISTRATION FEE :thup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 in queensland you get a bounty for cat tails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 too many suporter and cat lover out there... :an!gry ...bring on the CAT REGISTRATION FEE :thup: I know this is way off topic but do you understand the logistics of all of that? It's bad enough trying to get the mongrel dogs registered, what makes you think that getting feral/rural cats (the ones who do most of the damage) registered is going to suddenly make them stop killing? That's if you could even get them registered in the first place, many cats won't even wear a collar. Sure, slap an extra $90 or so on the people whose cats lounge around inside all day and night, that'll fix the wild cat population. In fact, why not introduce a mouse and rat registration fee? Then billions of taxpayer dollars can be spent on getting little plastic tags for all the mice and rats in New Zealand and fix that issue too! Genius. And on the original topic, it's pretty appalling that they wouldn't make it clear that only dead fish should be thrown in the trash. Yeah people do let their fish air drown but saying it's okay is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livebearer_breeder Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I hope you actually have thought through the logistics of it all cause soon everything will be chipped and it has nothing to do with saving the environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotealotl Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 in queensland you get a bounty for cat tails that is even better than a cat registration fee, and we should have it for possums as well (and rats and mice), would be cheaper than 1080 and a little incentive for all the people with lots of 'self-inflicted' spare time (hmmm, start a rat and mice breeding program and sell the tails to the government ey ?) mates of mine, every time they are out in the bush hunting shoot cats if they come across one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I hope you actually have thought through the logistics of it all cause soon everything will be chipped and it has nothing to do with saving the environment. Its all about the $$$$ for local and national government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aotealotl Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I know this is way off topic but do you understand the logistics of all of that? It's bad enough trying to get the mongrel dogs registered, what makes you think that getting feral/rural cats (the ones who do most of the damage) registered is going to suddenly make them stop killing? That's if you could even get them registered in the first place, many cats won't even wear a collar. Sure, slap an extra $90 or so on the people whose cats lounge around inside all day and night, that'll fix the wild cat population. In fact, why not introduce a mouse and rat registration fee? Then billions of taxpayer dollars can be spent on getting little plastic tags for all the mice and rats in New Zealand and fix that issue too! Genius. I defenitely didn't think that one thru (I should go into politics). it just frustrates me every time I have to pay dog registration fee for my two dogs and asking myself for what I have to pay it. do I really have to pay it to cover the damage occured by the early settler mongrels running loose everywhere ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 it just frustrates me every time I have to pay dog registration fee for my two dogs and asking myself for what I have to pay it. I am sure the same applies to people with moter bikes, why should they have to pay more then a car rego, they have less wheels and more often then no a car is involved in an accident. Diesel km's on cars are the same, they weigh the same as most petrol cars yet have to pay the same as a 3 or 4 tonne vechile which will do more damage to the road. Same deal as car rego prices continusly going up for what reason? :smot: :smot: :smot: :smot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Same deal as car rego prices continusly going up for what reason? cuz the politicians salaries are constantly going up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I am sure the same applies to people with moter bikes, why should they have to pay more then a car rego, they have less wheels and more often then no a car is involved in an accident. It's mostly ACC levies. If a car hits another car nose to tail then the occupants will likely suffer a bit of whiplash at worst. But if a car rear ends a motorcycle, the injuries sustained by the person driving the motorcycle will be far worse. Hence the higher price, it just covers treatment of the injuries. There is reason behind it, they don't just do it for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Yet there are no registration fees for bicycles ... whose riders have even worse injuries. Actually, perhaps it's because they die so that there are no injury treatment issues for ACC to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 It's mostly ACC levies. If a car hits another car nose to tail then the occupants will likely suffer a bit of whiplash at worst. But if a car rear ends a motorcycle, the injuries sustained by the person driving the motorcycle will be far worse. Hence the higher price, it just covers treatment of the injuries. There is reason behind it, they don't just do it for fun. But it is also much more likely to be a car accident then a moterbike accident, so why not charge more for car rego for that reason? Another example is people outside of Auckland having to pay extra for our fuel so Aucklanders can have more highways, how does that at all make any diffrence to my life? again well and truely off topic :smot: :smot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Wait, you're arguing that car drivers should pay for motorcyclist's injuries. But then you're against people outside of Auckland paying for Auckland roads. Pick a side dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I am saying that it is unfair that motercycle riders have to pay a ridiculus amount in rego when there is more often a car in a accident, more car accidents then moterbike accidents, more fatalitys in cars then moterbikes. why should they be picked on. more often then not they are only riden in the weekend as well. ( yes I know there is exceptions to the rule) And I am also saying its ridiculus that people outside of auckland have to pay for auckland roads. Both of these are sides on there own, I am not jumping fence on either argument as they are both diffrent discussions raised in the same point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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