camtang Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Haha, I still had enough time to check this while I was stressing at tech printing it off. lol. There is plenty of other options rather than the sevie. Sam will be able to use his small tanks for food raising now :sml1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 There is plenty of other options rather than the sevie./quote] Open to all suggestions! That's the plan, use the rejects of my line breeding program(s) as feeders. I'll probably have to start another thread for all that though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculator Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 In my experience cichlids aren't great at taking feeders. Poly's on the other hand All ways hunt down anything that I put in the tank. What you going to be breeding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li@m Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Guppys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Guppys. and perhaps platys 8) I'm sure if you start them young they'll be fine, I'm looking at getting 5-7cm fish initially so I can teach them good habits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 In my experience cichlids aren't great at taking feeders. What cichlids are you feeding? Mine take them fine. The Africans prefer african fry and Americans will destroy anything from guppies to bristlenose fry to African fry/young juvis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calculator Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 What cichlids are you feeding? Mine take them fine. The Africans prefer african fry and Americans will destroy anything from guppies to bristlenose fry to African fry/young juvis Americans, GT and JD, guess I keep them to well feed, as I have only ever seen my poly's take live fish that I have put in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 i've never had a cichlid that won't eat or at least try to eat other fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I have only ever seen my poly's take live fish that I have put in there. now that your polys have the taste for convict blood, they are definitely expecting more soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Here's the tank in question and the grinning idiot who bought it :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Looks good, nothing quite like seeing a big tank waiting to be filled! Not sure about the stand tho, I think you would be better off with something more rigid than ply on top of the blocks. The ply isn't stiff enough to offer any real support for the base of the tank, and you'll be able to level it more accurately. You might get away with it as-is, but its a lot of water on the floor if you don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Pretty happy with how the tank sits at the moment, it's far more solid than it look. I'm planning on trimming the ply down so it's flush with the tank, painting or covering the blocks and getting another piece of ply for a shelf between the bottom block and the second block. Lighting and hardscape after that, might be a few weeks though with school and work etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 :spop: I must say it's a shame you aren't going to do a huge minifish aquascape... :fshi: do you have plans for the 'scape on this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 earthquake might give you wet dreams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Sophia that thought did cross my mind but I have terribly bad aquascaping luck with anything over 100 litres :-? I've read that no matter how well I scape it, Oscars will rearrange it given the chance. I want to go really rock heavy, got a couple of solid pieces of alpine cobble with the tank for main rocks, will buy some more from 20cm down to 20mm pebbles with a sand base. I might give java fern a go but the fish I want don't usually play nice with plants :nilly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Rocks, Oscars + that stand - scary thought really... maybe rethink the stand? I think there's merit in what David's saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Rocks, Oscars + that stand - scary thought really... maybe rethink the stand? I think there's merit in what David's saying. +1 And +2 on David's thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackp Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'd agree about the stand. Along the front edge the ply looks to be completely unsupported for about 600mm, which is a large enough gap to allow it to deform (consequently allowing the glass panel to deform). I'd be adding in another stack of blocks through the middle or attach the ply to a timber frame to provide more support to the ply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Anyone here currently using a cinderblock stand? I'd be keen to hear from anyone who's got one, theory is one thing but experience is invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackp Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 It's not the blocks that are the issue, it's the ply. I use the stuff all the time at work (residential building). If it is put over joists at 600 centres there is noticeable flex in it (particularly if not fixed down). For the sake of $20 worth of 4x2 and a few nails why take the risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 It's been run like this before. I'm going to get a shelf cut for this stand before I fill the tank, I'll get a few 2x4s then to strengthen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackp Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 9 out of 10 times it would be fine. But if you make a basic frame to sit on top of the blocks and then fix the ply to that it will be much safer, and like I say, why take the risk. Check trade me for ply and timber rather than paying retail at mitre 10/ placies etc. South Pacific timber is usually the cheapest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Anyone here currently using a cinderblock stand? I'd be keen to hear from anyone who's got one, theory is one thing but experience is invaluable. Yes used them a few times but never more than 3 high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Cheers Jack and Mark, much appreciated advice! What sort of support did yours have Mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I am in the middle of watching a youtube video about discus, they are interviewing a guy from a shop in the states and in the background there is a sign for 3 red bellied pirahana for $18 and gold nuggie plecos for $49. Sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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