ANB001 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Hello New Zealand I come from Spain ... sorry for my english Not sure if these post goes here but me could not found an invertebrates zone I would like to breed a New Zealand snail called Latia Neritoides http://www.gastropods.com/8/Shell_30478.html But I found very few in the net about it. And the most important thing, no idea about where can i find some of them to begin. These is close to all what i have found about it http://members.aol.com/Mkohl2/Latiidae.html Please, can you tell me their water parameters? (I know they are from north island but nothing more ) And ...if someone of you has them in his fishtank, or knows who have ... Can we talk about it? ;P I think they could be send by postmail (properly packed in a DVD film box) me show how to if you are not sure. I will be very happy to see these bioluminiscence when a shrimp climbs on them Thanks for reading and sorry for my bad english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danilada Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Welcome aboard, sorry I am no help, but some-where surely should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faran Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Sorry to say that sending live animals in or out of the country is strictly regulated and you would have a very difficult time getting them to Spain. I would contact NIWA and inquire about availability of these creatures outside of New Zealand? Thanks for educating me on them, didn't know we had anything like that in the country. Time to go hunting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oeminx Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 i have found two sites of interest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latia_neritoides http://www.mollusca.co.nz/speciesdetail.php?speciesid=1715&species=Latia%20neritoides&PHPSESSID=11a9e38d8ea28a30f367719b9a0359a4 After see the picture of these i think i have seen the in the local stream so in the next day or two ill head up there and check them out probably get a cold at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Hi there! Latia are cool, and as BlueandKim revealed, most people have never heard of them. In the wild you see them pretty small mostly. 7mm on average. I haven't seen the maximum 11mm they apparently get. I also haven't seen much of them... I got a whole lot and the fish ate them immediately! Amazing as they suck down onto the rocks really hard, you have to slide them off with difficulty, but trying not to crush them! I have seen them glow, had a few in a small tank for a little while. The mucus is quite watery and not much came out, but they had been under stressful moving conditions for a few days, so maybe it wasn't 'full strength'. They need cold water and little sediment. They live on rocks in fast flowing streams. I would definitely try talking to NIWA (National Institute of Water Research?) or Biosecurity. I have heard of someone legally catching native fish and taking them back to Germany (but some idiot left them on the airport runway and they froze solid...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Thanks for educating me on them, didn't know we had anything like that in the country. Time to go hunting! :bounce: Sounds like a plan! I want some too! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANB001 Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Thanks a lot for all the answers Me didn`t know about NZ laws :C I has been watching the NIWA website, but could not found a list of things wich can be taken out of NZ or not.And if eggs are included in the law or not. I will be very gratefull if Blueandkim or Stella (or both ;P) asks the way of having some But I dont need a lot, just very few snails or some eggs to try to breed them in a fishtank at home (not industrial breeding) They are going to live in a fishtank alone so no problem with fishes. Making a trip to search them its a very good idea, it has to be funny to see those streams at night I am like a bit far away to join, but if you go, tell us if you get a fartluminiscent snail,a cought, or none (and if you can measure the water ph ...) Nice hunt and be sweet, dont take more than what you need (sounds like, We aaare the wooorld - wee aaare...) ... Becauuuse they caaan groow and breeed ( jajajajaja i have a poet day) mmmm better me say good night and good luck at the hunt ;P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 ...fartluminiscent snail... :lol: fart = fart [fɑ:t] vulgar, I nombre pedo What do these snails eat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 whoawhoawaitaminute...They glow? Ok, I need some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 They kinda look like those 'cats eyes' you get at the beach. cool 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANB001 Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 I forgot me found these http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/2 ... 604590.php http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o ... 020855bca3 I hope they dont need to eat some special NZ plant ... PD- JAJJAJAAJ was a joke pedo = ventosidad = flatulence, windiness You translated it to spanish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANB001 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Hello NZ Two weeks has gone, with a 4 party days bridge here hope you had those free days there too ... And hope someone used them to make a small trip to snailhunting ... some P.O.W taken? Did you went back home dry? Best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I have been thinking about your request.... it may be possible to legally send them out of the country, but getting them into Spain legally might be more of an issue. However the main thing is I think it would be next to impossible to keep them alive in a parcel.... I have had no luck keeping them in tanks so far, they need very clean, highly oxygenated water. It may be possible, but I wouldn't know how to do it. To answer a few others, yeah, they secrete glowing mucus when disturbed, not like glowworms that have a 'light' inside their bodies. They eat algae and biofilms rather than plants. I think they would need to be kept in a specialist tank just to get the idea of how to keep them alive before they could be kept with others, but they are so small you would have to REALLY want to keep them.... There is also a huge native earthworm that glows..... the point of that no one knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreedingFrenzy Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 There is also a huge native earthworm that glows..... the point of that no one knows! LOL. Maybe they have to glow underground to.. .. no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANB001 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Hello Stella, thanks for your interest You are right, it should be better if they was used to live in a fishtank, and much better if was born in one ... in fact, me thought some people should have them in an aquarium when first post. How was the tank where you kept them? I think using a small fishtank and a big filter we can get very clear water. Oxigenation would be made with a venturi or an external Co2 reactor(unpluged) I would like to try it I want to make an small tank only for them, but found very few information (everything is wellcome). Maybe they need to eat some local plant and dont glow out of there ... Do you know water parameters and temperature? and maybe a web where i could see how are those streams. Do you know if another animals lives in these waters (fish, snail ...) and their names? maybe they will give habitat information. Please tell me how to request them. When I have all the info and the tank working i will try to do it. Thanks a lot Stella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANB001 Posted March 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Hello again NZ Me back after long time to ask ;P Finally was made a hunting trip? Has someone tried to keep them since the last post? Please say yes... to both Thaanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 NZ doesnt have any export/import data with Spain ( no import standards anyway) as I have been trying to bring semen in from there for 18 mths Sorry Navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 NZ doesnt have any export/import data with Spain ( no import standards anyway) as I have been trying to bring semen in from there for 18 mths Sorry Navarre A bit off topic, but what sort of semen? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 bull possibly? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 equine? ovis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Maybe we maka da bullfighta--jus der lille wun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Hello again NZ Me back after long time to ask ;P Finally was made a hunting trip? Has someone tried to keep them since the last post? Please say yes... to both Thaanks what snail are you enquiring about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANB001 Posted April 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Sorry, i was distracted for some days... I`ve given some time to think a nice joke about spanish semen export... but nothing gone out. I hope you work with cattle A killy-breeder friend told me too that it`s very hard to exchange eggs with NZ... your laws dont allows nothig I was asking for the same snail than in the first post page, Latia Neritoides http://www.gastropods.com/8/Shell_30478.html Can`t believe nobody wanted to keep them to see how bioluminiscent they are since then :C Just a photo or video of their trick in a nice and clean fishtank... no one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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