okay, ill send him a pm. and sorry if im confusing people, its actually going to be an indoor enclosure, 1200mm by 580mm by 700mm (L,W,H), water will be around 170mm high - just before it hits the bottom of the sliding doors (200mm). will have multiple logs, ledges, rocks ets for water dragon. one turtle is roughly 60mm shell length and the other 80-90mm. cheers