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Are they doing it in one area of the tank, or all over the tank? Are any of the other tank mates doing the same? Frenchy

What?!?! Oh so its ok to breed one type of peacock with another then. Just different colours in some cases? The guppy example you gave is just like the discus amongst others. Most are hybrids, come all are discus. What is 3 wild types? Then line bred to form a new trait. There are a few different types of Leleupi's. If some were imported as yellows, some as oranges, then chances are they are different forms. Yes they may not have locations, but they are usually imported as colour. {Old school naming again lol} Be best to keep it that way. Especially if one trait is hard to come by. Frenchy

Once they start :lol: The joys of american cichlids Frenchy

There is a couple of strains there. I seen some "Super Red melons" today at a shop. {drools} Better than the normal "red melons" which I have had before. Must resist temptation to buy :lol: Frenchy

Yep they will cross breed. Are they then a hybrid, I can't answer that. Leleupi can show different colours ranging from yellow to orange. All to do with diet etc. There are different colour morphs in the wild, depending on what part of the lake they are from. So to answer your question,I don't know. As I don't know what they were bought as, their lineage.... If they are different morphs, then yes it is cross breeding. Frenchy

hmmm, I vote for don't know too. Something about the head shape. The closest it resembles to me is socolofi. What did you buy it as? Frenchy

Same as Caryl on growth rates, they can differ. Frenchy

Thats half what I am hoping for. Not doing to much. As for water changes, my altos are on at least weekly anyway. The fry tanks more. Be a case of not adding buffers etc for the discus tank. Be good to play with plants for a while too. Don't worry have kept some Africans. Frenchy

:lol: Worth a try but Frenchy

Not long got home, should have time tomorrow, & batteries are charged too. :lol: For me that is an improvement. I usually get called another type. :lol: Frenchy

Finally, my job here is now done :lol: Dam it, pop the bubble. :lol: But she does... Spot on Now we are guessing & taking wild stabs in the dark, clutching at straws.. etc etc etc :lol: Oh, Ummm, no. :roll: It is a peacock cross, with what? Well who knows. Still a pretty pet all the same. Frenchy

Hello & Welcome,from the other side of the ditch Frenchy

I would of added pics, 3 sets of recharges flat, :-? 2 sets of remote control betteries, yep you guessed it flat & I found 4 more AA batteries in a drawer, once again not enough power to run the camera. :roll: :lol: Maybe tomorrow :lol: Frenchy

I only went 1/2 crazy in the end. I couldn't brake down the 4x2 yet. A few odd altos I had to keep. So I got rid of the acei colony Put the mbamba's, yellows & demasoni all in the 4x2 with odd altos. So I set up a 4x15x18 on Saturday. With 4 discus{turq, red spotted, sunset orange, blue diamond}, some cardinals & harlequin rasboras, couple of peppermint bristlenose, an albino pair of bristlenose that were in with the africans, a cory sterbai{all Brad had} a couple of crypts, some type of grass{dwarf rush} some other plant{forgot again lol}, couple of Anubias on woods, a siamese fighter :roll: oh and a left over guppy from White Calvus tank. Looks good, discus settled in well & are eating. Settled in better than I thought. Just a little timid, with the light on & people in view. Apart from that swimming around..... Have to wait for Brad to get in more cardinals, rasboras, sterbai, a checkerboard discus, a red crypt like plant & some ambulia. Hint Hint Brad :lol: Frenchy

Welcome aboard, hmmm, tough decision that one. Good luck :lol: Frenchy

The information I gave on bloodworms came form an Ad Konnings book{editor}. Enjoying Cichlids. If I was to use Blood worms, I think Hikari are the cleanest. They claim to sterilise them & have vitamins etc. {Brad still gets a rash from touching these to, though.} My bad :oops: carnivore means to eat flesh. If it eats other fish, that is flesh too. Used to using the term piscivore. Funny one uses piscivore, the other carnivore, from the same website. Frenchy

I think the starting price on Trade me is fair. The $99 in a lfs isn't. The shop has made an error in my view. If they paid $30-40 or more from a wholesaler or breeder, then they just made a mistake, thats all. They should of realised roughly what the market value is. Probably was $90-100 at one stage, cichlids breed, market value has dropped. Over here we can buy cichlids off wholesalers. If the wholesaler bought from a breeder,{limited african imports here} then the wholesaler has their mark up. The lfs buys them, adds their own mark up, then sells to customer. eg; Black Calvus are $xx on one wholesale list, yet a lfs could only sell them for that price. The smart shop, that wants to sell Black Calvus goes & finds a breeder & buys direct, cut out the middle man. Frenchy

Electric Yellows.... From... http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/l_caeruleus.php From.... http://www.wetpetz.com/elecyellow.htm Electric Blues..... http://www.wetpetz.com/elecblue.htm Also the term is Piscivore, as in eats fish. Not carnivore eat meat. Big difference. I think the main thing is a balanced diet. I always feed my yellows a mix of 2 types of cichlid pellets, spirulina flake, HBH Cichlid flake & mysis shrimp. Electric blues when I had them; pretty much the same. ps; I would never recommend feeding bloodworms to Africans. Frenchy

Market value. Funny term that. Over here the legal imports of Africans are very limited, peacocks... I got some fish that had been brought in illegally over here. The Lion Coves I got were 1/4 that price. {Okay 3-5cm} but still back door specials should be expensive. The White Calvus were a pretty{same as the yellows in question} penny, but now they are hard to come buy. I don't know how something legally imported could fetch such a price. Frenchy

Why? Do you have 16 dom males? :roll: Frenchy

They aren't to agro. My dom male used just want one cave and the surrounds of that. Every dom male I have had has been the same. They want to spot in the tank & the surrounds. So if you are outside that zone, they are quite nice to the others. Any that don't get the hint :roll: get hammered. Therefore Ryan is right, 2 ft tank would mean the others would end up with the top far corner :lol: Frenchy

If that is the ones that are in the pic. I would hardly say they are high quality. I should hit Brad up for more on the ones I trade to him :lol: I didn't even pay that for lion cove imports. Frenchy

If you kept them.... What would you feed a piscivore cross herbivore? Frenchy

I haven't seen one like that before. It is not unusual for them to have smudged bars & the like. There are plenty like that in the Lake itself, from what I have read. Straight barred demasoni can throw smudged bar fry, vice versa. The top one in this pic is what I meant by smudge etc.. Are all the demasonis bars like that though Johannes? {New ones that is} As long as their body shape is the same as the others that you have, nothing much to worry about. People are a fussy bunch though, we expect all our demasoni to be perfect, straight bars..... truth is in the wild they are not. The zig zag's I haven't seen before though. Frenchy

Sorry don't know, how the meds will go with them being babies. How is their tank set up & what you feeding them. if the diet is strictly algae based, spirulina & the like. Do you also have a nice piece of wood for them to chew on? Prevention is better than cure. Frenchy