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I think your better off with more floor space than height? Coastal beardies are a bit more arboreal but even so need more floor space i think. Ok for a water dragon maybe but double its width would be better. Otherwise a very nicely done enclosure.

brilliant :lol:

I would try keep temp at 22-24C and just keep them well fed. They should be alrite, someone else may have another idea. Sorry cant be of more help. Nice tank by the way

Thats interesting. Ive had problems with tadpoles raised in temps above 24. keep the pics coming. whistling tree frog froggy style

As Moya mentioned above. You cant keep wild specimens, have to obtain them from another breeder/permit holder. Ring doc if the house is getting detroyed along with the habitat, hopefully they will be able to be relocated. Id be very surprised if your aloud to keep them if you get a permit, but you never know.

whats willy wonkers secret recipe lots of research over the past few years, and still a very long way to go. to make it viable. hardly worth it for the sake of a frog or 2. its not too hard to do on a small scale. but it is time consuming. search the net, there's many ways to do it. finding the one that works for you is key.

best to buy or breed your own, less risk of disease and or feeding a bug thats been exposed to insecticides etc

Suspect chytrid fungus. could be pollution, things dont seem to be getting any cleaner in ponds, streams etc. More chemical use to kill insects. kiddies destroying habitats to collect tadpoles/frogs. maybe all of the above. Amphibians seem to be on the decline throughout the world. I must say though over the past couple of years the exotic frogs seem to be doing well in this part of the country.

thats great, if they were fertile. tortoises use to be a few hundred not so long ago. the past is the past.

its a full moon tonight ladies and gents

is that me...i cant recal getting my pic taken.

best to stick to crickets and locusts.

glad its not just me...or the brewskie

Started at 60 no reserve... until i made an offer :roll: .....then went to 500 reserve. Not a bad price as they are rare, but it hasnt sold so maybe not. "Alot cheaper" from who?....I havent been able to find any myself for the past year or 2. Buy cheap get cheap (sterile?). Going on what has been sold in the past anyway. Albinos are nice, my favorite. Sold my first batch for $250each....cheap for fertile. Any cheaper and it would hardly be worth it, nor would anyone be interested in breeding them?.

warm room in the house? or heat pad under tank, or if water area big enough just an aqaurium heater. dont want too much water though. Prob 1/3 water 2/3 land be good. crickets are cream of the crop. Locusts ok, flies not bad either....

:lol: Especially considering there is now another on tm and could well be the same person 8)

Ive been very tempted. But I cant really justify spending what theyre asking for it atm.

small water area, can use declorinator but i normally just use clean water thats been standing for atleast 24hours. So chlorine should have evaporated etc fitting lid, few air holes etc. Keep above 20C and feed it a few bugs it should look like this > :bounce:

I dont really want to get into a discussion. Just thought id bring it to peoples attention that if mining goes ahead on Schedule 4 conservation land it may have an effect on the frogs. If 88% of the frog population has already disappeared in the last 14years then any impact of mining could be enough to tip the balance. I just hope the government doesnt just think of them as some silly little frogs and they end up like the snails as mentioned above. Theyre very very unique and being critically endangered I really hope all care is taken to preserve them. Mining can be done else where. The frogs wont necessarily be successful elsewhere.

Yes apparently, but it doesnt seem to be a must for frogs in my experience. I see brumation more as a survival mechanism (survive winters) not so much a behavioural enrichment. Thats just me though. Most people who keep frogs arnt interested in breeding them anyway. You have to be mad to do that :lol:

The above is just an email. You write a submission if you please. The frogs are hardly widespread or in numbers like they use to be. So any mining that effects any of their habitats is not good imo.

Im sure you do :lol: . But there is no need to brumate them in captivity.

Below is an email thats has been forwarded to myself. Just thought Id like to share with the few people on here who maybe interested. I personally am not appose to mining in general. But I am apose to mining if it will destroy the habitats of our extremely rare and unique amphibians. If you would like a copy of the email please email me [email protected] Unfortunately, the New Zealand Government wants to make a quick buck by mining some of the beautiful New Zealand forests which are home to Archey’s frogs (Leiopelma archeyi) and Hochstetter’s frogs (Leiopelma hochstetteri). If this goes ahead then we will be able to document the extinction of two more frog species. In the 1990s areas of New Zealand that were considered to be of “high conservation value” (including many National Parks) were placed on Schedule 4 which recognised their conservation significance and proclaimed them as a “No go” area for all other activities. The New Zealand Government is now asking for public submissions about their proposal to remove some of this high conservation value land from Schedule 4 to open it up for mining (coal, gold iron ore and rare minerals). The areas to be mined include several long-term frog monitoring sites where the frog populations have been continually monitored for over 40 years – this represents the best data on frog populations anywhere in the world. In addition the proposed mining area includes the ‘type’ locality of Archey’s frog (Tokatea on the Coromandel Peninsula) and Hochstetter’s frogs (Coromandel Peninsula). Archey’s frogs only occur in two areas of New Zealand and the Coromandel is considered the ‘stronghold’ population. “Save our frogs – stop the mining” really is the biggest issue in New Zealand conservation – of course saving the long-tailed bat, woodroses and a North Island brown kiwi along the way is important too! These endangered frogs (Archey’s are Critically Endangered losing 88% of their population since 1996) are just hanging in there and without our help they will disappear. If we destroy their habitat then we will quickly lose a part of one of the most important pieces of New Zealand history as well as a large piece of the amphibian evolutionary tree. We have a moral obligation to protect these original inhabitants of New Zealand – the little people of the forest. For more information on how the frogs will be affected (including maps of distribution and proposed areas to be mined) click here…… http://www.nzfrogs.org/ To see some ppt about the mining issue during a recent Panel Discussion (including frogs) click here……. http://www.otago.ac.nz/law/nrl/mining/index.html For more information about the mining in Coromandel click here……. http://www.forestandbird.org.nz/saving- ... coromandel Please make a submission to the New Zealand Government by clicking here ….. http://www.forestandbird.org.nz/mining AArk web site Contact us Donate now The Amphibian Ark is a global non-profit organisation formed to ensure the global survival of amphibians, focusing on those that cannot currently be safeguarded in nature. Submissions close 26th MAY

Welcome aboard menagerie Whistlers dont brumate in winter as far as i know. More so go dormant in the peak of summer. Best not to have more than one species in the same tank, chance of disease increases. Possible chytrid fungus knocked them off, as they often get weak before dieing with that. Sometimes found on their backs and are so weak they cant even right them selves. Chytrid also seems to do better at lower temps....think ive read over 22C its less likely to take hold. Keep in mind whistlers seem to like the cold so best below 24/25C, and thats probably pushing it. More likely lack of food, to cold for the bells to eat or maybe just stress thats killed them. But the above is a possibility. I dont heat whistlers here, but try keep bells above 20C. 22-24C is a good temp i find. I dont brumate mine indoors as very hard to replicate mother nature. Risk them dieing if not done correctly and who wants a tank with dormant frogs in anyway?