OK, good point, if M&D gonna have to come out shortly well then theres really no point, I didn't realise they spawn so often, so about every couple of weeks then, might do the spouting trick I think this time, see how that goes, hopefully they will choose to spawn on that.
Thanks for all the help, waiting for one of my boys to show me how to post a pic, so I can share with everyone. Might go and do that now, keep an eye out I'll see how it goes.
Lynda