Benjansss Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Tanked is entertainment TV, please do not use it for educational purposes. I like to think of Tanked as a measuring stick for fish keepers, I find that serious, knowledgeable hobbyists can't stand it and not so serious, not quite as knowledgeable hobbyists do. Also of corse they care about the welfare of the fish they install chillers and make sure the flow is alright For the types of fish and when they put in fish that will out grow tanks they tell the people that they will have to re home them eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyay Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Also of corse they care about the welfare of the fish they install chillers and make sure the flow is alright For the types of fish and when they put in fish that will out grow tanks they tell the people that they will have to re home them eventually So... how do you make a tank suitable for Axolotls and Discus together? Their show has an impact on fish outside of the show - people take what they say as fact and believe them to be educating, they go and follow the show and ultimately kill their own fish. These guys, IMO, do not care, or they would not be showing people such disgusting ethics. Honestly? The guy's position on how TV =/= education, how Animal Planet shouldn't be education, makes me absolutely livid. And he completely misses how everyone watching Animal Planet believe they're being educated. I absolutely looked up to that channel as a kid and it helped to get me on a path in Aquatics - I fully took what the channel showed as truth, and I believed them to be educational. As does the majority of other people watching it. They, IMO, could not care less about the fishes' welfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Then why would they do the stuff I stated before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 They make some nice tanks on Tanked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Then why would they do the stuff I stated before So gullible people think that they care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Why don't you think they care they allways make sure what they put in the tanks are fish safe and they don't put small fish in with ones that will eat them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Read this, I agree with him 100% http://reefbuilders.com/2011/08/21/tanked-hold-water/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Read what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Forgot to paste link lol, it's there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyay Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Why don't you think they care they allways make sure what they put in the tanks are fish safe and they don't put small fish in with ones that will eat them ...Discus and axolotls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I realise that the tattooed fish are not produced in the same manner as 'glow-fish', but I had the notion that they would be lumped in under the same moral ambiguity? I don't know of course but was wondering if people on here did know the legality of bringing something like that into the country. Loved the Survivor analogy David haha. Never thought comparisons between that show and fish keeping would be made on here. Tanked is a show made to appeal to the masses of uneducated hobbyists that want dramatized viewing. Using 'facts' presented on the show seems foolish to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruju Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I realise that the tattooed fish are not produced in the same manner as 'glow-fish', but I had the notion that they would be lumped in under the same moral ambiguity? I don't know of course but was wondering if people on here did know the legality of bringing something like that into the country. Loved the Survivor analogy David haha. Never thought comparisons between that show and fish keeping would be made on here. Tanked is a show made to appeal to the masses of uneducated hobbyists that want dramatized viewing. Using 'facts' presented on the show seems foolish to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think that tattooed fish are pretty much branded while glow fish are injected (though some pass the trait on to their young) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 :oops: :oops: :oops: monkey see monkey do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think that tattooed fish are pretty much branded while glow fish are injected (though some pass the trait on to their young) I don't know much about genetics, but being able to genetically mutate an animal so that it passes the trait onto it's offspring sounds extremely unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think that tattooed fish are pretty much branded while glow fish are injected (though some pass the trait on to their young) Well...Injected I suppose if you stretch the definition enough to include injecting DNA into the cells. But, no, like others have said, totally different genetic engineering vs squirting ink into them through needles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 The "glow" zebra danios have had some of the DNA from a jelly fish transplanted in their DNA.This is quite different to injecting dye in to the body of a fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexyay Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 The "glow" zebra danios have had some of the DNA from a jelly fish transplanted in their DNA.This is quite different to injecting dye in to the body of a fish. +1. Glofish are genetic - the offspring (the Glofish sold in store) are not negatively affected by it (if you don't count "shining bright like a diamond when there's a predator swimming towards you" as negative). Dyed/tattooed fish, however, go through a cruel procedure of being injected with dye, which ends up with high mortality and any surviving fish being extremely prone to stress and disease. They are very different procedures. I personally don't like Glofish, but it's not necessarily cruel and is typically just regarded as tacky. Glofish, however, are illegal to import in NZ (though there have been some illegally imported before). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Then why would they do the stuff I stated before $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 How does telling they will have to re home fish make them money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 How does telling they will have to re home fish make them money On top of labour they probably charge a certain percentage on top of the price of the tank, equipment and fish. So buying expensive fish will make them more money and rehoming them isn't their problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Doesn't answer my question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Doesn't answer my question Well, I don't watch the show, but let's say they buy an asian arowana, it costs them $2000, they charge an additional 20% for sourcing the fish for the client. They basically make a $400 profit. The asian arowana will outgrow the tank in ayear or two, that will be the clients problem. Does that answer your question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 How does telling they will have to re home fish make them money Telling them that doesn't "make them money" but what does is supplying fish that will quickly outgrow the tanks so the tank owners have to re home said fish and then they will buy another one to replace it, more than likely through ATM as well. Did you read the link I posted? If so why are you still arguing the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjansss Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I did read the link and I do see how it supports your point also they have offered to help rehome fish many times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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