camtang Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I had a power cut last night,did not think anything of it. I also turned my C02 up a little yesterday, no side affects during yesterday. I came home from work to find all but dead fish, the filter had not turned back on from this morning.The filter was set to break the water a little and the tank was in perfect harmony. Now what do I do too savethese fish? So far I have done too water changes, got the filter going, lwered the water for more surface break, turned off the c02, and install an air stone. I also dragged the fish backwards through the water. ( Is that wise?) Is there anything else I can do other than cross my fingers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 . I also dragged the fish backwards through the water. ( Is that wise?) I've never heard of that being done. Sounds like an old wives tale. What's it supposed to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I also dragged the fish backwards through the water. ( Is that wise?) fish swim forwards but don't panic they only drown through lack of oxygen sadly the gill membranes may be damaged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Drag water/oxygen through the gills. I have heard numorus people do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Should I leave the light on over night or turn it off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondfish Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Turning off your light would probably be better, unless you keep it on normally. The shouldn't be harmed too much. Keep an eye on your ammonia and nitrite readings though as some of the beneficial bacteria may have died off if it wasn't kept wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I will turn the light off then. Most fish are looking like they are pretty buggerd, same have already stopped swimming :dead%fish &c:ry . I am hoping the plecos and loachs get through, I am not worried about the other fish in the tank anywere near as much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Drag water/oxygen through the gills. I have heard numorus people do this. I'd have thought you'd better off pushing them forward through the water if you can hold their mouth open, that's the way their gills are meant to have water flowing over them. What I'd probably be inclined to do is hold its mouth open and put it in front of one of the spray bar's jets. Not too close though, just enough for a steady current. If you look at this pic, instead of kind of stretching out in the current when the water flows across them normally when the water is flowing backwards they'd tend to fold up and collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I will turn the light off then. Most fish are looking like they are pretty buggerd, same have already stopped swimming :dead%fish &c:ry . I am hoping the plecos and loachs get through, I am not worried about the other fish in the tank anywere near as much Plecos are pretty hardy so they should pull through. I would do a water change everyday for the next week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I'd have thought you'd better off pushing them forward through the water if you can hold their mouth open, that's the way their gills are meant to have water flowing over them. What I'd probably be inclined to do is hold its mouth open and put it in front of one of the spray bar's jets. Not too close though, just enough for a steady current. Note taken. Plecos are pretty hardy so they should pull through. I would do a water change everyday for the next week or so. Fingers crossed, and I will do that. I am planning on leaving the C02 off for the next couple of days until everything is seeing to be happy again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 just watch that the pH doesn't drastically swing the other way with the CO2 being turned off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 :nilly: :nilly: More things to think about, I should of just stuck to Africans! Thank you all for the advice and otherthings I need to think about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Don't stress bro I have had this happen a few times now, just lower the temp a couple of degrees and chuck an airstone in and things should be sweet within a day or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I did it with DIY a while ago and lost some L002's so I am packing rite now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Most fish don't have a filter going when they get transported from overseas etc. Just get a powerhead and set it about 1/3 down the side of the tank. Turn it on hard out and point it to the surface of the tank. As long as the ammonia and NO2 are under control then they should be ok. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 :tears: So sorry that this has happened to you, and good luck with your remaining fish! On a sidenote, I don't think you're completely wrong about the fish-dragging thing. I once had a fish jump ship while I was moving tanks and I didn't find it for 20 or 30 minutes. When I found it it was nearly completely dried out and not moving and when I put it back in the water it just floated upside-down. I remembered hearing something about dragging them backwards through the water for some reason so I gave it a go and lo and behold it came back to life. First few times it wriggled a bit and then went belly-up again, but after I'd done it 4 or 5 times it swam back down with the others. Was a bit banged up for a while but I've still got him, 6 months later. So, there might be some truth to the "dragging fish backwards through water" theory after all. I think of it kind of like fish CPR. I imagine his gills had stuck together as he dried out and the dragging through the water forced them open again, allowing him to breathe (or whatever it is fish do). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerbabe Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Oh.. bugger Cam... :tears: here's hoping for a happy outcome!!!!!! :f77: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Please don't drag a fish through the water backwards (unless you want it to drown) - best way for their gills to collapse. Their gills are designed in such a way that the water flow over the gills are counter-current, which is basically what you were trying to achieve in the first instance :bggrn: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 you are better to blow down its mouth (fish cpr) as long as the gills are wet if you want it to get lots of oxygen in quickly (the air you breath out is heaps higher in oxygen than water). I would assume that the dragging it backwards thing is propogated by people trying it in desperation and not trying anything else. wet gills and oxygen is the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Death toll at this stage is 1 harliquin and 1 dwarf chain loach. There is still some odd behaviour going on, I am not use to seeing the Paki and zebra loaches during the day. So I will keep a close eye on it nd fingers crossed the death toll stays at 2. Thanks all for the input and the learning around not dragging a fish through water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I had a co2 overdose last week too mate, scary stuff to see all the fish floating or belly up. Massive waterchange, salt dose and lots of surface movement and all the important($) fish came right, lost a few assorted tetras and of course the glass cats as they are first to succumb to gill damage i find. 3 days later everyone is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted August 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 It is a horrible sight! Looks like things are coming back to normal. Death toll still at three. I will do a good clean, and reset tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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