binu Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 i really want some unluckily m n rotorua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li@m Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Lovin' those "Blue Flames"!! :nfs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 This is a young Blonde Platinum Magenta. The next step is to add the albino gene which will remove the dark pigments emphasising the Pink of Blonde Magenta. xxsophieeexx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSa Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Very nice and healthy looking fish - like it a lot ! Keep on posting pictures of your strains... Cheers, JaSa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Cheers JaSa What do you think it may look like with the Swallow gene? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSa Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Just a wild guess: Cheers, JaSa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Yuk! Scrub that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Yuk! Scrub that idea. :sml1: I think it looks a lot better than a lot of pics I have seen of swallow tails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Got to be a little hard to breed with a gonopodium like that. Size does matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Nothing a scalpel can't fix alanmin4304, The way it works is you run 2 strains and cross the normal male into the female Swallow, a bit of a snip does work. I've seen Platinum magenta albino's swallows selling for $35.00USD + for a reverse trio ( swallow male and female + a normal male ), so some one must like them. :fshi: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSa Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 A little update out of the new fish room: This one fell out of my Asia Blau strain in the 4th generation of inbreeding. Will try to setup a new line with him since he is a really nice double sword. Two very nice looking young Black Bar Endler. I like the pattern on their caudal fins. Probably in F6 of my Black Bar Endler two blond ones showed up. They are still very young and it is hard to tell how the male will look like once fully matured. But worth setting up another tank for them Red Chest Endler are just so cute... The "Blue Flames" are now more mature and some of them are turning more into a green-ish look. Others are showing pretty ugly caudal fins. That's the reason to wait for maturity and then pick the best male. Nice Brimstone Swallow Tail female. Just the bottom part of the caudal fin is more extended then the upper half which isn't ideal. Random male of the Tiger Platies. Cheers, JaSa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 The DS and Red Chest Endlers are stunning. Really Beautiful colour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 These have all come from JaSa's stock as feeders several generations ago now - still being used as such I have several males in this line, one greener but still young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Jasa, is the DS Blau a Japan Blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSa Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Hi Stu, I would love to have an DS Asia Blau Japan Blue - but I don't think so. Just wrote you an email about the strains history... Cheers, JaSa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Well we'll have to do something about that wont we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSa Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Interesting female with black spot on both of her sides: Tail still needs a lot of work: Youngsters: First in NZ; Black Bar Endler Guppy with Elongatus (extended dorsal fin) trait: First in NZ; Red Chest Endler Guppy with Bronze base colour: HB + Pink (breed by caserole): Hopefully (!!!) Japan Blue trait (breed by caserol): Blond Magenta (breed by caserol): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Nice Blonde Magenta JaSa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSa Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Nice Blonde Magenta JaSa As stated, not mine. Gift from caserole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 The Japan blue's are X linked H/M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSa Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 X linked Tested? That would make things soooo much easier Just had the first fry on Monday. Quite a few for her first drop and they are all healthy.... Cheers, JaSa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Not really tested, however as you know most Tail shape gene's are on the X chromosome. For members reading this and not versed in guppy colour gene's please note the Grass gene ( black specks in the tail resembling grass seeds ) is well known to be X linked ( = on the Female Chromosome ). The original imported male, a "Pink Lady Guppy" - could also be named an AOC ( Any Other Colour ) Japan blue Red Grass or plainly a Japan Blue Red Grass Guppy, has a delta Tail The Mother was suspected to be a HM or OHM ( Over half Moon ) , please realise the fish are not flaring their tails showing it's true shape. Here is one of the Males I kept, as you can see his tail has a very different shape from it's father. And as he is clearly carrying the Japan Blue Gene and the females are not related the J.B Gene must be on the Y chromosome in this case ( It can also be X linked ). Here is another picture. It was supposed to be a son of an AOC Chilli Red frilled OHM Guppy, In stead I ended up with a Chilli Red Platinum, the only thing I can think happened is the female was impregnated prior to being imported and I was super lucky. So back to your Question, Tested?No, but All the fish breed to these females develop a HM / OHM tail. As far as I know there are no tail shape genes that are Autosomal (Autosomal genes are genes not Sex Linked and past on to fry irrelevant of sex ) - all are sex linked X or Y, there for it would suggest the HM Gene is X linked. Do you agree ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I hope you did not think I was saying the Japan Blue Gene was X linked, :facepalm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSa Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 As far as I know there are no tail shape genes that are Autosomal (Autosomal genes are genes not Sex Linked and past on to fry irrelevant of sex ) - all are sex linked X or Y. What about Swallow and Merah? I hope you did not think I was saying the Japan Blue Gene was X linked, Yes, I did, sorry As you know, way easier to transfer it into another strain. That's why I got so excited, haha. But Y is fine, only means a few generations more... Cheers, JaSa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Wow stunning looking fish Caserole. Good to see some nice fish being breed. Im still at the start trying to find some nice pairs. but very limited up here in Kerikeri. I have lots or inbreed guppy's but it look like the males have reverted back to maybe wild type looking more like some form of endler. But i was using them for turtle food as some had half orange tails etc and didn't look that great to me. please keep the pics coming of your nice fish. :cophot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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