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Been discussed. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?t=5864

But why does he hate fish., the money is HUGH. He could get richer.

Maybe you dont have the cash then. Got any rich friends who want to invest money in a pet shop. Maybe pet corner could put in a few tanks.

Perky, get your cash out and start a shop, and you will find out why there are not many marine shops.

Seachem , salifert coral food, reef solution. jbl, Importers dont sell direct, That is what a fish shop is for.

No, but there are a few other brands thank you can get, Hollywood fish farm has a few coral foods.

Do you have photos of the changes of the angel.

I think if it is floating on the surface it is too late, i would put it down, place in a plastic bag and freeze it, Just pointless to let it suffer as i suspect it have a bacterial problem as well.

A bucket is fine. The longer you wait the less chance the fish is going to get better, The problem now is that the fish probably has got a bacteria problem as well. So you have to treat it for white spot and bacteria.. Have you done full tests on your tank?. It seems you are having a few fish get sick, I think you lost a lemon peel and have you lost anything else.??? White spot is not a problem unless there is something that is still stressing the fish. In this case get the fish out and put it in a bucket with a small heater and airstone. You could also try to turn the temp up to 30C. Can you post some pics of the sick fish?

Ben here is my post again. Ben it is too late for garlic. Remove the fish and put it in a bare tank with a airstone and heater only. Get some seachem copper and add as directed. also get a copper test kit. Do this asap.

Great coralline algae. I love the emperor angel. He is awesome. You don’t see many hobbyists in nz with such fish.

Kim I understand your point. I feel it is only a minority who believe it and from the post you read you will see that they might have a lack of understanding on how a business operates and may not understand the difference between gross profit and net profit. In theory this might sound ok, but if it was so simply then why do all the shops not do this then?? The reason it that you need purchase very large volumes to do this and if you did you would use up your working capital. Every business has an operating cycle and a capital investment cycle. The cycles in some businesses are longer than others and some cycles require more cash. WHOLESALERS-wholesalers buy from the manufacturers and sell to the retailers. The operating cycle is the most important cycle in wholesaling companies. Fixed assets are not a major part of the business. RETAILERS- Retailers sell products directly to the customer. The length of the operating cycle ranges from a few days and as long as a year. The length of the operating cycle will also affect profitability. For example A wholesaler may carry several different types or brands , but should be focusing attention on the fastest moving items. good wholsalers will not carry a heavy or broad inventory,,instead they move inventory quickly from the manufactures to the retailer. BY comparison a retail has to take inventory risk. Customers want choices and selection. This means the retailer must carry a relatively broad inventory.In thoery therefore ,the retailer should be compensated with higher profits for taking a higher risk associated with a longer operating cycle. Even the Warehouse(red shed) buys from wholesalers and not direct from the manufactures, I am sure after posting this Pies ,all wholesalers will put a stop to this , so i quess it wont be a problem for Retailers and your deliema in the future. I understand that wholesalers are reviewing this anyway as trademe is a classic example of this.

Ben it is too late for garlic. Remove the fish and put it in a bare tank with a airstone and heater only. Get some seachem copper and add as directed. also get a copper test kit. Do this asap.

I have T5 tank with hood, should I take off the glass top to increase light ? No really as the salt will damage the t5s. you should have enough light. Soft tank Also Should I clean the front glass with glass cleaner, I spray it on to a paper towel and then use it? thats ok Are dishwasher cleaned bowls OK to use in tank for water change? no. What about a backet used to wash the car, rinsed and used for water change? no ..... I know some of the answers but are lazy... need to be told.

What bulbs do you use Ira??

Joeblogg do you use much carbon? i found that overuse of carbon can cause problems with corals,

Yep BK you are correct. and no one thinks of all those risks involved with life stock. Also you have to build equity so retail stores can invest back into the business.

And that is the point you have not been in the hobby long enough to understand what we have now and what we did have. If you want to go back to the days of taking 12 months to fill and tank and never get any hard coral then go luck. What is happening now is that prices are getting to cheap, as wholesalers have to dump stock, which is not sustainable. I don’t believe any shop is making a tidy profit. If you do the numbers it does not work on current volumes being sold. Any business manager will tell you this.

That is human nature to buy cheaper, but with the very small marine market in NZ, too cheap a pricing means retail stores have to sell twice as much to get the same return and shops will close the marine section if they can’t make a buck. Most are already doing it for love. A chain reaction will happen and it will also effect all large wholesalers who will only bring in small number of items which will mean less selection and increased pricing. I think R&B and the crew will soon see that they got it so wrong, That competition in a tiny market means everyone losses in the long run. You have to be in the market to understand how it works before you can come out and slam all the pricing. Already there is a big slowdown as so much coral/fish has come in during the last 24 months so most tanks are getting fully stocked. The hobby in NZ will never get much bigger as it is not in everyones price range and with the world reefs being destroyed more corals will be cultured , and cultured coral is not cheap and will never be cheap. IF that happens it will be the worst thing that can ever happen to the Hobby as it is nice to walk in the store and see the products, not buy them out of a bag. How can you buy something if you dont see it. especially for new hobbyist who will miss out on seeing what is available.

3rd April,Sunday Maybe Butterfly creek or out west where the best tanks are.

That green acro looks great, would be a really bugger to lose that.

Only one suppliers sells them stock. so coral/fish is very limited.

Meeting will be on in 2 weeks as it had to be changed due to round the bays and Easter. Everyone has too many commitments over the next two weeks.

The best advice i can give is break the coral up asap, you have to be cruel to be kind. I have never saved any acros except as above.

Tank is looking very good.