Caper, you could not understand the mentality of a Kiwi or a Kangaroo without being either one.
We are two great nations, IMO, but are so very competitive in almost any field.
Just a shame the Kiwis can't play cricket, but we aren't bad at netball, softball, rugby, league, rowing, yatching, shall I go on??
Their attitude to sport is that if you haven't won, you have lost, not come second or whatever.
In NZ, we have developed a good-feel thingy with "It was good to have competed and tried."
Fraid I'd rather have the Ozzie attitude.
Then they'd have NO cups.
Alan 104