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sorry wrong side, that was the side knot was on put paua eye in the other side wanted a keepsake of it but didn't want to keep it in the tank any longer

i did an exact size carving of it when it was in the tank, made out of an old fence post DOC guy estimated it around 40 yrs old it loved maggots and any insect i could throw in there i hope he wasn't in its hole either there are some other giants here but none i have seen near the size of this one

giants are slow growers, get to arond 150mm then take ages to put on much size have a 43cm specimen in our system, haven't seen it since the recent landslip in the fernery destroyed its favourite hole had it in a tank for 2 years

from herald article, the first line in story the bull is still living in the gully

don't house them together

the pictures paint a thousand words

they may be big enough to not get eaten

thanks loopy is the red the male colouration?

the bottom one is embarrassed for you :oops:

any ideas on what species of metynnis please and their sex please?

Dear new human, we realise you love us already, otherwise you wouldn't have chosen us. heres to getting to know you better for you we will be the good little angels

Dear new human, someone plucked us from our home we were used to has put us in a bag, shaken us around for a while then popped us in a totally new and strange environment we thought we might sit in the background for a little while so as to make sure that big net isn't coming back and maybe move us again signed the new angels P.S. we might venture out in the morning if your lucky.

judging by the size probably Dolomedes minor definitely not a sheetweb too robust and lighter stripes on it

that is a lot of bull my ex main man Tull - RIP. 14 July 1994 to November 5 2008

after all that info muzz i think it means you can breed the angels you want to get the look you want:D

real altums look like they have their nose stuckout like they are sneering at those common angels

guud arches phoenix don't know about the wave with the big toe though

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from the wiki page i posted "The species may show red spotting and a bluesih green dorsal overcast when mature and when aroused exhibits a black operculum spot. Characteristic of this species is an acute incision or notch above the nares (supraorbital indention). All true Orinoco Altum specimens show this trait, whereas commercial hybrids product of crosses to Pterophyllum scalare, that are occasionally performed by breeders to sell them as "Orinoco Altum", may not exhibit the trait or it may appear in a lesser degree." should be easy to tell on mature fish

yes i believe it is a combination of conditions, food types and genetic prediposition maybe the upward gaze means the bottom muscle on the eye is stronger and diet can accumulate more fat or fluid in the system around the eyes, weaker top muscle letting go first? living in a river as opposed to an aquarium would probably produce a fitter and leaner fish not couch potatoes frequency of food may be greater as well in the aquarium would be interesting to know how many aros with DE lived for awhile when younger lived with bottom fin nipping tankmates

wiki page is good too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pterophyllum yes phoenix i would love some true altums, they grow into stunning fish saw some biggies in auckland years ago at a pet shop by the riccarton racecourse i think

try here for some info on angelfish genetics http://theangelfishsociety.org/genetics.htm the average angelfish available nowadays is the result of hybridisation

substitute Pterophyllum Scalare and Pterophyllum Altum into that sentence