Barrie

they were here in the not too distant past, I checked out the breeding registrations. I would almost garenttee that some one has them some where

now if they were to pay me as I wanted, that pass time could be quite long :oops: dont forget to look for the add

whereas I cant come close to what Ryan is doing, I will try to push him I have this weekend off so will get into it then if thats OK? I think we may have now lost both Rachovii strains now. I still have a small amount of peat and the Stienforti peat I got have not produced in the first wettings

Rivs are interesting as they enjoy being out of water quite often They will jump out and rest for hours on leaves or the river bank. Im sure there would still be some here in NZ but Im not aware of any.

P82's,Albinos, Gardneri Gold, Australe Chocs, Striatum

Hollywoods Mt Roskill

not that I am aware (and I have almost all that you can get here) but every now and then you see some here that have either been called somthing incorrectly for years or a new shipment arrives. There is a Auckland shop that has just recieved some Killis and they did not realise how colourfull they were. Wonder how many the staff ended up with :lol:

to be 100% honest, I dont think the prawns are anywhere near as tasty as saltwater but thats the same for all fish. They seem to need time in salt water to bring out the best in them

without for a single minute doupting what happened was wrong and not in any way acceptable, I detest things like no cowboys and target as they are always on the side of the public and will rearly give companies a fair go at all Almost everyone I know teats target as a joke and no cowboys is quickly going in the same direction (I have never been in either) Be interesting to see what the company comes back in answer to your statements

Im sure that wont be a problem Ok Mr Wok I will sit and keep an eye on the cake for you and you can drive If it looks as if its in danger, I will put it some where safe OK

The way I read /understand what has been written is that it was cancelled by the friend/middle man due to not enough interest To me the track did not cancell it? Paul is this correct? If it is that way I understand it to be, the track has done nothing at all wrong If the track has canceled, I agree, they have broken the contract and should refund

yes but this time hes not calling it a P82 so Im happy with that Thanks

he way I understand it is that the track is well within their right to hold the money as its stated conditions are no refund. The problem is that the organiser has not told the people that and as she has paid the moneies recieved to the track, she can-not give a refund Now the problem becomes between friends I honestly dont blame the track at all as they have costs and may well have been able to let the track to someone else but the organiser has made a mistake by paying far too early and not getting the deposit from all concerned meaning that the few have paid the deposit for those that didnt coff up

In my wifes dove release business, we never use to take deposits but due to people cutting back on costs, in the last 6 months she has had 3 jobs canceled. We will now be taking deposits that will be nonrefundable if canceled by her customer but if we have to cancel (due to weather) they will get a full refund. Problem with not getting deposits is that when the customer cancels, you have lost the chance to offer that service on that day and there fore have had a loss of income. They way I see it is that the track has a no refund policy so that they dont end up with say 52 canceled week ends per year and they will be able to opperate and stay viable next year. If your friend isnt offering a refund and has not paid the track anything then a smack should help convince him to do so. Wether by hand or letter from a lawyer is over to you

Im taking down worms so Im safe

hope I can remember :oops:

If you have tried everything and have come to the end of your teather, I too agree that you should lay a complaint with the police. If this is becoming a "habit" then it needs to be broken and as you cant smack them, then you need to do the police thing to help protect other people and to break them of this habit. Chances are you will not get your money back but they will be known to the police and if they continue, charges may well be laid and then its will be public knowedge there fore stopping other con jobs

Just going for the day now so PM or email your addresses so I can pick you guys up if you like Ta

Gesh If it isnt written down, I will never remember things like that Sorry about that Leave that stick at home and I will make sure its brought down for you OK

why didnt you ask last week when I was down there? I will make a culture up for you

OK Alan By your above statement, the best possible solution would to have a system similar to Iran or Irac where the punishments are so hard and often final that all crime disappares over a very short time. We should have dictators to rule us totally? Comments like "The reality is that 80% of kiwis that voted want it to be legal for them to be violent with their kids."are really unhelpfull and totally incorrect factually Suphews comments are just as unhelpfull Do you really belive that if we didnt have this referundum 9mil would have gone into the schools.Honestly? There has been around 100 cases where parents have been using valuable police resorces for giving a light smack we also know that easy cases like this that are high profile get more effort put into them than a simple break in

the simple answer is (or course) no-one want to see kids beaten up The problem is now that if I see my neibour give their kid a light smack, my neibour can have the police called on them and be charged. THIS HAS HAPPENED Sue Bradford would have been better off putting her efforts into say totally banning cigarates or booze Some good parents have been visited by the police some good parents have been charged still kids are dieing from abuse still kids are being badly beaten so tell me, what use at all was this law change? If a law is good then I would have thought some good to NZers would have come from it but I see an increase in killings and beating No reasonable NZer would condone kids being laid into but to send a kid to bed early or with no dinner is every bit as cruel and have longer lasting effects Ask any teacher Why not target parents of kids that go to school with no breakfast or lunch or no shoes and warm clothing? All these things are things that the efforts of sue bradford would have made a difference had she truly been interested buy instead she took the easy way and targeted good parents that dont beat kids, dont send them to school hungrey or cold.

Im going down but wont know untill mid week wether Im staying over night or not Im not too keen as it means no day off this week so will probably be coming back after the meeting

simply because its a laoded question but to help mabe if it was worded as the theme of this discussion, in non provoking words How come no one has answered my question from way back. How come you want the freedom to be able to lightly smack your young child that you love, care for and would do anything to help them but in this case they need instand reminder that after repeated donts, but you do not complain about interfering nanny state saying that you cannot smack your your 22 stone bikie neighbour or your little old lady neibour. Very very simple answer, they are older and should know different. If they continue to break the laws, you have the policy to come in and "smack" them In my glass factory, I have had several children run down the back which endangers them. Their parents tell them not to to it after I point out the dangers. Children come back for 30 seconds then dissappare again. I mention it again and have been told on several occasions that I should put a wall up or fence the area off. All the children needed was to be controlled and stopped from trying cause them selves problems by the parents but as the parents cant control their children, it becomes my problem. My neibour accross the road, whos "mother" dosnt belive in a smack, had her son attack my daughter with a hammer. The mother would not do a thing about it and when I went to try and talk to her, she put a non trespass order on me (first and only time I had ever been to her place). Next time it happened he chased my middle and youngest daughters down to the rear of my section. I cornered this child and knocked him to the ground by pushing him. I told him that if he gave any of either my kids or neibours kids a hard time like this again, I would knock his block off. This child has now grown up and I get along really well with him. He even thanked me for helping him when he was "young and stupid"

exactly