Adrienne

So I gather Guess a few will be waiting for the trade me email.

Update - Fair Go tonight just answered the question - what about animal breeders/pet breeders selling on trade me. Do they have to register? Answer Yes. If you are breeding to sell then yes.

Just an advance notice to those delegates who use this forum (and a reminder to the Executive) that there will be an on-line Executive meeting at Friday 29 May at 7.30pm. Delegates are welcome to attend and it is suggested that each club does have representation at these meetings, as this is why we have the delegates. An email will be sent out within the next couple of days along with minutes etc of the previous meeting and the agenda. Please keep this date free and join us on this evening :f77:

Kids like goldfish because they are bright colours and a decent size to look at. Boring little plain coloured tropicals won't do it. Perhaps if you offered to put pink substrate in and a rainbow or a fairy princess castle you might get her interested in wee fish. Yes, I am being serious.

What have you got in the landscape that you don't want to add coral to?

Thats where it needs to be - so the waterline can not be seen.

I have had many aqua one cannister filters and have never had a problem with them but don't rate the internals quite as much. Goldfish are really messy, imo an undergravel filter combined with good vacuuming and regular water changes or an external canister would work best.

Have you filled it right to the water line? Normally trickle filters can be filled high enough that there is little or no noise from the water falling.

I may well be wrong but they look like bite marks to me (very similar to the ones my discus get when they are fighting).

It will help but you will have to keep an eye on the pH still as you won't be able to see when its all dissolved. I would tend to go with it in the cannister.

No HFF does not sell NLS any more. I don't know a huge amount about the ingredients in fish food but have a 5 1/2 month old pup who is 'raw fed' as most commercial dog biscuits have grains in them. If the same applies to fish food then meal is the ground up bones and left over bits that can not be used up any other way, a bit like sausages can be for humans. (Hope that hasn't put any one off their dinner) I would think potato in fish food is just bulking it up.

Me neither actually, I stocked up with NLS before the local shop finished selling it so I am good for another 12 months . Kensfish is not in NZ is it?

Rather than adding removers you really need to find the cause. Brown algae is common in newly set up tanks.

The calicos myself and Jennifer were/are selling are a breed, although like all fancy fish hybridisation went on in the past. They are slower growers (slightly slower than the longfin albino) but are no less hardy than any other bristlenose. I have a mature female at 8cm body plus 4-5cm tail (finer than the standard bn), I have had her 16 months. I have 4 from the same batch of fry as Alex and all are growing slowly. I did wonder how they would handle my tank change over as I bumped the temp from 25 - 28+ but no problems and I am currently waiting to see how they handle the CO2 that I restarted yesterday. Columnaris eats away at the fish in a matter of hours. Highly infectious and should have wiped out the entire tank.

You can't unless a back yard trader is bringing it, saying its for themselves, and selling some/all off. Long story but as with a lot of aquatic things people aren't prepared to purchase from shops therefore supply stops.

Yes I do think the tank would be okay for a single blackmoor or oranda, certainly for quite a while. The main thing with them is the need for quality water so regular water changes. As they grow the mess will increase. They don't do well with floating food so need sinking pellets.

It sounds like you have researched well. Goldfish can grow to 30cm, live 10 - 15 years and are very messy fish. You could have a couple in your tank for a while but eventually you would need to reduce to one. However they do not need company so that would be an option. Betta don't, in my experience, handle trickle filters very well. Their long fins and tails tend to cause them to be pushed around by the current and often they end up sticking up against the side of the intake stem/powerhead depending on which one is at the bottom of the tank. I had 4 dwarf puffers in my 54 litre tank, it was only lightly planted with a few rocks. They would come to the front of the tank when I walked past it. I initially purchased two which had been together for six months and was warned that they didn't like other puffers in their territory. I should have listened as when I added two more within a week they had disappeared, one night after another. If you are getting some get a group at the one time rather than a couple and then add more. They are best in species only tanks as they tend to get hungry in the middle of the night when other fish are sleeping I found mine picky as to what they ate - bloodworms as long as I wiggled them but I know others will eat pellet foods as well. Other options are a school or two of fish like ember tetra, harlequin tetra, neons or cardinals, rummy nose (any schooling fish) plus one or two feature fish or a pair of fish like rams which will breed eventually. You could get a couple of bristlenose or a group of otos for algae control - they could go with the schooling fish. 75 litres is not a bad sized tank as long as you stay away from the larger growing tropical fish.

Does your local fish shop not stock it?

This is a general comment as you have given the fish a decent sized home The trouble with goldfish is that to give them a chance of a healthy life each fish requires about 50 litres of water. Goldfish can live 10 - 15 years in optimum conditions which means enough space, good food, good water. They can get really really large ie 30cm.

Goldfish are incredibly messy fish so you are really going to have to watch out for the ammonia spike which will happen, probably in 4-7 days. I really don't know what to suggest for a cheap but effective filter, possibly an under gravel one might work quite well along with the water changes. Its great you have gotten a much better sized tank for it. Only other thing I can suggest is that the type of food it should be eating depends on the type of goldfish. If its a fancy one then it will have its swim bladder fairly tightly compressed and will need sinking rather than floating food (flakes). Try posting in the coldwater section perhaps.

Get a big bin and set up the two canister filters to run in this. Are you going to run them in tank water or fresh tap water? I have some 25 litre drums you can use if you want to transport water in an amount you can carry. Better not to turn them back on if its only clean tap water, even with conditioners added. 18 months ago we shifted house, only 100 metres up the driveway but I had to dismantle 20 tanks. The fish went in to bins, the filters were turned off but not emptied. All the water from the tanks went down the drain, and at the new place I filled up from the tap and turned my heaters on. Once at the correct temp I added the suggested amount of startsmart to all my tanks, turned my filters back on and put my fish in. The whole process took about 15 hours. No losses, no spikes.

I run two in my 450 litre tank - one is set at the temp I want the tank to be at, the other is set 2 degrees lower. My main one is a Jager rated for a tank up to 1000 litres, the other one is an aqua one 300. The Jager is set at the higher temperature. The Aqua one is a back up heater. Neither come on much.

Not sure where in the country you are based but from my understanding it costs an awful lot for building permits etc for this sort of facility as well. Its not as simple as getting a skyline plonked on a concrete pad.

I would imagine it will depend on where the tank is placed relevant to your floor joists.

Discusguru - which ones do you have in your shop tank?