antwan Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 hooray, after getting four wild caught apistogramma hongsloi's off nz discus, i was lucky enough to discover i had 1 male and 3 females. Anyway, after performing the ritual water changes i saw these two hopping on the good foot and doing the bad thing. Quite a decent size spawn compared to what my cockatoo gives me..anyway, here's a few shabby pics (they spawned in the pot furthest away from the front). in between runs there she is laying her laying again, that's the best pic i can get of the male unfortunately. will keep you updated, it will be interesting to see how these guys parenting skills compare to the domestic ones we get usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 WOA SHOT MAN thats awesome Good luck **EVIL** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandS Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 :bounce: Way to go ant :bounce: looks like there will be a good suply of localy bread apistos around soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted April 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 haha thanks guys....soon after posting i went back in my room to check on them...and found the male cockatoo having a bit of a nibble...he's now in the naughty jar until i can find a better home for him. Also, must be my luckiest day with fish ever, i noticed my rams have a new batch of wigglers, and my wild caught agassizii flamengo pair are going at it too in the main tank I NEED MORE TANKS! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboi Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 hello everyone i am new to this site and still trying to figure out how everything works. good on ya ant it always amazes me when wild caught fish breed in captivity. that's when u know u done a good job at setting ur tank up. it sound like ur goin to be busy with all the new critters, what sort of rams are u breeding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted April 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 straight blue rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted April 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 ok, thanks to HandS, we have discovered these are in fact NOT Apistogramma hongsloi as i was told, rather, they are Apistogramma bitaeniata...all is well, im still happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimebag Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 oonly just seen this thread! congrats antwan hope u have sucess raising them! hey ive got 1 spare tank at the moment if u want to use? its not very big but would do a cockatoo or 3 it s prob 30 - 40 litres at a guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted April 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 dimebag, you have been PM'd, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keri Anne Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Very cool Ant Would love to see some good pics of the parents when you can get them. Sounds like you're doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 thanks Keri, i walked in on the pair of agassizii going at it this afternoon too which was a nice surprise. here's just a few pics: male bitaeniata: female agassizii with eggs: male agassizii: i was quite surprised how clear the last pic was as it was taken from my bed on the other side of the room zoomed right in :lol: if i get too close he just swims away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Bet it wasn't such a nice surprise for them to have you walk in on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishy Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Good stuff ant Im quite a fan of the apistos, and wouldnt mind setting up a tank of them. is it possible to house say cockatoos and aggazziis in the same tank, would they interbreed or anything? how many of each type do u need to keep together so theyre happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted May 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 They wont interbreed as they are not the same species, you would need quite a large tank for these guys, as the males really need 2-3 females each because they establish a harem. Each female keeps her own territory which can sometimes be one square foot or more, then each male has a larger territory (covers the females territories), which can be 2 square feet (if i've remembered correctly). You would be able to house them in a really densely planted 3 foot, with lots of caves, however obviously the bigger the better (4 foot or larger would be preferable). Just one male of each is all you need, any more and you're going to find yourself with dead males, until the dominant one remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishy Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 ok thanks. i have a 220L 3ft and 220L 4ft. the 4ft is narrow maybe about 40cm wide which is why its the same literage as the 3ft. i was planning on putting them in the 3ft, which is indeed densely planted. I have already got 2 apistos, ive been told they are the macmasteri pisto. they are in a planted 20L holding tank, until i transfer them to the 3ft. i was planning on transferring all the fish at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted May 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 how many of each type are you going to add? This technique is better than adding one species at a time, as the ones already in there will think of it as their territory and would really harass the newcomers, possibly even kill them. What sex are the macmasteri? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishy Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I have no idea what sex they are. im not even 100% if they are even macmasteri, they seem quite young looking. would it be possible to get u to come over one time to get ur opinion on them? i was thinking of a harem of cocktoos as well. would they be ok with a ram or two? and a pair of kribs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted May 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 im sure i could pop in one time, ummm so, you want to have; agassizii, cockatoos, kribs, rams and macmasteri??? that's simply too many dwarf cichlids for your tanks unfortunately, which means you're just going to have to buy more...damn, what a shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishy Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 ha i know but unfortunately im running out of space, need a bigger house. what about just cockatoos, macmasteris, 2 kribs, and 1 ram? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted May 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 possibly..you could try it out and if they start getting aggressive just remove the ones you least like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishy Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 ok then will do! now if the macmasteri are macmasteri do u know anyone who breeds them? and is it poss to get cockatoos off u? and how much would they be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted May 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 HandS has macmasteri, i am unsure if they are breeding or not however. i no longer have cockatoos, must make room for the wilds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishy Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 ok no probs i can get cockatoos from a supplier. mite PM handS about the macs. let me know when ur free to come to my house and have a look at the macs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandS Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 No my macmacmastri arnt breeding, as i dont have a female :roll: but if anyone knows where i can get one................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishy Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 No my macmacmastri arnt breeding, as i dont have a female :roll: but if anyone knows where i can get one................ Well if mine are macs and they turn out to be females maybe i can swap u for a male? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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