Adrienne Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 They will certainly help Thats what I will be getting to put on the back of my cabinet to pull the heat away from the chiller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 We had a 120L tank which was slightly easier to cool than the 250L but both required daily (sometimes more) input of 3L frozen containers. The poor freezer was running non-stop trying to keep up. This was in a room which could reach 28C in summer and we needed the tank at 15C. The temperature difference was too much. We have since bought a chiller (long after the tank was dismantled - just in case we decided to set it up again) and it will still be in the garage somewhere. Anyone who has seen our garage will understand why I am unsure exactly where :bggrn: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 We had a 120L tank which was slightly easier to cool than the 250L but both required daily (sometimes more) input of 3L frozen containers. The poor freezer was running non-stop trying to keep up. This was in a room which could reach 28C in summer and we needed the tank at 15C. The temperature difference was too much. We have since bought a chiller (long after the tank was dismantled - just in case we decided to set it up again) and it will still be in the garage somewhere. Anyone who has seen our garage will understand why I am unsure exactly where :bggrn: I think anyone with a garage will understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 A bit :smot: But went to a local lake today and there were heaps of dead bullies (in about a 30m stretch of shore there would have been 40+ bodies) I'm assuming it was temperature related due to the fact that the gambusia are still thriving. Also no dead juvenile bullies (nothing below 40mm) are they more tolerent of water temp and/or low O2 levels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 juveniles do seem more tolerant of temp, and often hang out in very shallow warm water (where the micro zoo. are?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Just wondering how everyone (without a chiller) has been going, I'm still keeping mine around the 15 degree mark (I did a bit of a test to see how warm it would get without ice, I left it for 24 hours and it crept up to 19.8 so it appears that 3 litres of ice lowers the temperature by atleast 1 degree and gets back to original temp after 24 hours) What are your tanks currently sitting at or fluctuating between during the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 What is the ambient temp in the room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 About 23.6 degrees,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyp123 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 About 23.6 degrees,. I've moved my fish into the foyer where there is a mesh door thing, with a fan on it i'm keen mine down to 15-16 degrees without ice. Lots of ventilation I've found to work incredibly well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I keep my windows open so there is always a breeze, living in the far north there aren't many cold places.... It will be interesting to see how our temps compare throughout summer, how big is your tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyp123 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I keep my windows open so there is always a breeze, living in the far north there aren't many cold places.... It will be interesting to see how our temps compare throughout summer, how big is your tank? Currently a 50L, moving onto a 155L at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Mines over 200 litres, just out of interest what fish do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyp123 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Mines over 200 litres, just out of interest what fish do you have? Banded kokopu whitebait, 1 inanga, 1 pair of crans bully and 1 koura Crans have paired up, so i'm hoping that they will breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 That's a very low stocking for a 150, are you planning on getting more fish? How many bandeds do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyp123 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 That's a very low stocking for a 150, are you planning on getting more fish? How many bandeds do you have? Yep thats only because I have yet finished setting it up, i'm planning on 1 banded, probably about 6 bullies and a few koura, that's the plan anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 A few koura? That'll be interesting.... :spop: You won't have much mid water movement you might want to think about 3 or 4 inanga? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyp123 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 A few koura? That'll be interesting.... :spop: You won't have much mid water movement you might want to think about 3 or 4 inanga? I think 2 koura should be fine in that, I considered that but I am wanting to be more representative of their environment, so inanga wouldn't really work, but one full grown banded should provide enough movement, shouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I guess so..... But when bandeds get bigger they become more of a lurker, inanga are relatively active 24/7 all their lives. Yeah 2 should be fine, I was under the impression you meant more than that. With their natural enviroment banded and inanga are often found together which isn't surprising due to the fact that they both like slowish flow..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyp123 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I guess so..... But when bandeds get bigger they become more of a lurker, inanga are relatively active 24/7 all their lives. Yeah 2 should be fine, I was under the impression you meant more than that. With their natural enviroment banded and inanga are often found together which isn't surprising due to the fact that they both like slowish flow..... I haven't heard much about their environments overlapping, it does happen occasionally, but bandeds prefer a forested stream and being good climbers, while inanga can't climb - I would have thought that they would be uncommon to be found together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I have found 4 populations of bandeds around here, 3 also had inanga, the one population without inanga is our farm drains there are a fair few culverts on neighbours properties before reaching the sea. All our natives like cover but due to deforestation and farming that isn't possible in many areas (far north included) I guess it depends whether you're copying a specific stream or a specific habitat. Just another thought, kokopu seem to be more active if there are smaller fish out in the open (small fish = no big dangerous fish) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyp123 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I have found 4 populations of bandeds around here, 3 also had inanga, the one population without inanga is our farm drains there are a fair few culverts on neighbours properties before reaching the sea. All our natives like cover but due to deforestation and farming that isn't possible in many areas (far north included) I guess it depends whether you're copying a specific stream or a specific habitat. Just another thought, kokopu seem to be more active if there are smaller fish out in the open (small fish = no big dangerous fish) That's interesting, I know all the banded areas i've found haven't had any inanga, that's quite interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Maybe you are further inland? I'm on the northernmost peninsula so most locations are within 10ks of atleast one coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyp123 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Maybe you are further inland? I'm on the northernmost peninsula so most locations are within 10ks of atleast one coast. Actually to be fair, all my banded populations are either quite inland or above migratory barriers, and inanga populations not so much - so that would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdollarboy2 Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Hows everyones tanks going? Mines still ok with the fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiraka Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 12 litres of ice three times a day is keeping it between 12 and 15 degrees, but I don't have enough freezer space for the ice for the second 230 litre I got last week :facepalm: The temp is sitting at 24 degrees, maybe I should go unheated tropical :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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