Hali Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 I have to say.. and this is brave on here.. My first fish was a betta in a vase :facepalm: "Oh they don't need heaters!" "Oh they LIKE stagnant water!" "You don't need to filter cold water!" "They're 'hardy'" even "They live longer in cold water" :facepalm: FFS.. I had heard from a ridiculously huge number of people that this was the way it was. Quite quickly I realised a heater was absolutely essential, then decided that although I was doing massive daily water changes , the ammonia might be right but what about the poor fricken fish and the shock of it all!!! Skip forward.. (make sure you do this )and I have 9 heated, well filtered, fully cycled planted/driftwooded/rocked tanks, a good variety of foods and an understanding of the necessary elements to keeping HAPPY, healthy fish. So.. Yes education is key, not everyone wants to be a moron and I was quite enthusiastic to be cured myself. So keep giving people crap when they're not doing it right, this TM guy might not take it on but someone will I know the staunch stance on this forum and another on Betta care is what spurred me to do my own research.. AND I was horrified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepsnana Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Hi John, Thank you for your contact and sorry for the delay in reply. Captive fish are given the same status under the animal welfare act as cats and dogs. The SPCA can take action if water quality is poor or if ammonia levels become a problem due to overcrowding or lack of cleaning. An owner is responsible for attending to their physical health and behavioural needs and responding to injury or disease. Other animals such as cats, dogs, pigs and sheep have their particular needs laid out in what is called a ‘code of welfare’. There is not currently one for fish but there is sound research on some aspects of their care. Any group can submit a draft code of welfare to the National Animal Welfare Advisory Committee for development into a code of welfare. This process that has been in place since 1999 is under review however and there is a proposal that these codes will move to regulations that are directly enforceable. If this motion is passed public will be consulted as to how regulations are developed and what is included. At this time you could submit a proposal as to regulations and guidelines of fish care. In the meantime I would be happy to receive any information you may have expertise in in terms of requirements for fish. This could be done by emailing me or you may choose to contact RSPCA National office with any information. regards Jason Blair Animal Welfare Inspector Tauranga SPCA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 As in your other topic it could be difficult to define as to what is considered as a small tank. Specific fish and their quantity would fall into different tank sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Except we have some prior work from the RSPCA one can call upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish_fingers Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Is someone going to actually win the fish or just argue the point about animal cruelty? I surly would but have no space nor tank available for a such a fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Alternately if someone from anywhere wants to press buy now and send him $20, I'll pick up the fish and he can board in my spare cold water tank till he can go to another home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yeah something needs to be done about the fish, but we can't go buying every single fish that's in a small tank, a better approach to stopping future circumstances is the above idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepsnana Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yeah something needs to be done about the fish, but we can't go buying every single fish that's in a small tank, a better approach to stopping future circumstances is the above idea. A few of us have notified TradeMe about the listing. However, the most that TradeMe could do is pull the listing, which is dooming that fish to its nearly 7L fate. The best option for the fish would be to buy it and re-home it, but that is not preventing this issue from arising again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepsnana Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Alternately if someone from anywhere wants to press buy now and send him $20, I'll pick up the fish and he can board in my spare cold water tank till he can go to another home. Tried, the wife said no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 *cough* A few of us have notified TradeMe about the listing. However, the most that TradeMe could do is pull the listing, which is dooming that fish to its nearly 7L fate. The best option for the fish would be to buy it and re-home it, but that is not preventing this issue from arising again. Reporting the listing doesn't solve the problem does it? Won't it just get the listing removed and Then the fish can't get sold and it will be stuck in that bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Go hali! :happy1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 well said hali, I'm sure a lot of people here would shudder if the recalled their first attempts, mine was a black moor in a 10L bowl when I was 5yrs old, lasted a full 3 weeks. second attempt was a properly set up community tank, I think the last of the original occupants was a kuhli loach of around 7-8 years old (wonderful staff member at a local (and now closed) pet store set me up and helped me fund it by buying my guppies for 50c each). one person who tried to teach instead of trying to make money and look what happened ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Yes I liked her comment 'You may not have known. Now you do'. Only I suppose if he didn't know then he couldn't have been accused of lying :sml2: I've asked for a fixed price offer so will see what happens next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish_fingers Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I have also expressed interest in this auction, while I do not have the space for this fish, I do have several workmates that will no doubt have room in their ponds for the little fellow. I am interested in the "tank" for my carnivorous plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I asked for an offer but I haven't had one and it hasn't been sold yet.. has anyone else had an offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostknife Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 i have been offer him for 15.00 just have to take the offer now just been a net besy at the moment and have to arrange to pick up will see what i can do sohpia did u what him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I don't actually want the fish but I would have looked after him until someone else came to get him from me. If you want him but can't get over this way for a while I can go and pick him up and he can live in a nice big bucket with fresh water and some live bugs... that would be a palace compared to where he's been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostknife Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 i just brought this guy hope he wont it lost in a ufo 880 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Yay...send me a PM or a text if you want me to go pick him up for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostknife Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 thanks for that sophia goting to see if i can pick up on wednesday nite if not will let u know thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Ghostknife to the rescue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hali Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Go Ghostknife. Good save. :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish_fingers Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 thanks for that sophia goting to see if i can pick up on wednesday nite if not will let u know thanks again And so beings the create of "Gold Fish Rescue"....could make a great tv series :spop: Good work on saving him/her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostknife Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 i pick him up tonite fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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