wee2 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 they are all so very nice. $$$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Yeah I know I could get them but they cost a bomb! Also they wouldn't be very helpful if I was trying to breed my Apistos because they'd eat the fry :lol: If I had more tanks then I'd get into plecs seriously, because they are so awesome and are also one of the few types of fish where there are little or no man-made colour morphs or hybrids which is good for me because I don't like mutations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 one of the few types of fish where there are little or no man-made colour morphs or hybrids which is good for me because I don't like mutations. You would be very surprised... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Aww damn! Lol. I thought that a lot of them were hard to breed and that there was much less of all that hybridization stuff going on? I'm sure I read that about plecs somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaide Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 All of the above - and where the hell can we buy them?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 US/Europe/Japan/Singapore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 cool thread. bumped.. what is this pleco? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 cool thread. bumped.. what is this pleco? its 'L-prob would never get in nz' :sml1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 i was wondering about that. are there specific plecos on "the list" or are plecos as a whole allowed into NZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 good question mahn. unfortunately they have to be specifically named on the list by scientific name to be allowed into NZ. sweet, thanks for answering that question for me mahn. no worries mahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Are you talking to yourself bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 haha there is a list on one of the topics. your main problem is that importing one pleco is too expensive, importing lots of little ones - you need to sell them. find a supplier. but hey, maybe someone here will eventually just do it. who knows. :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 answered my own question. i really should try answering them before i ask them. still - original question - what is the pleco that david posted and i reposted above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Blue eyed panaque is my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 answered my own question. i really should try answering them before i ask them. still - original question - what is the pleco that david posted and i reposted above? it's a panaque suttoni bro thanks again mahn, you've been a great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Correct, P. suttoni, pic taken from here. Ashdavid is a collector and photographer in Japan who has some absolutely amazing fish and tanks (like Snowy, and this 7000L tank) and used to post pics on MFK occasionally, but after constantly being hounded for other pics, full tank shots etc, as well as being tall-poppy-chopped he seemed to stop a few years back, unfortunately. But back to the plecos.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 How cna you possibly be a tall poppy chopped when you h ave a 7000litre tank? weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 people claiming the fish weren't as big as claimed, photos faked because they had been "photoshopped" (ie shot in RAW by a professional photographer and edited), demanding to see full tank shots etc etc, the last few pages of these two threads sum it up really; link, link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptilez Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 people claiming the fish weren't as big as claimed, photos faked because they had been "photoshopped" (ie shot in RAW by a professional photographer and edited), demanding to see full tank shots etc etc, the last few pages of these two threads sum it up really; link, link. Amazing fish Quite sad really that some people scared him out of posting pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 its 'L-prob would never get in nz' :sml1: Actually it's 'L - it really is on the allowed list' But it does not have an L number as it is scientifically described, but if lotto was kind to me, it would be imported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Yeah I forgot to mention they are actually are on the allowed list, and were (IIRC) available once upon a time many many moons ago, but not all that popular as the other "fancies" were far prettier with their stripes and spots and colours. Amazing what an export ban, greatly reduced supply and the internet will do for the popularity of a species, I think you'd be lucky to pick one up for much under US$5-600 now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 But US$5-600 is ok as a year or so ago they were US$5-10,000 (Unless of course you forgot a 0 David? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Holy! didn't think they were that much, I knew they were a couple of grand a while back thou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyGeoff Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Yup, they were really really expensive, and then suddenly they were only 1/10th of the price, I think the fishery was opened, or another fishery discovered??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I think there are two "blue eyes", P. suttonorum and P. cochliodon (not the one we see here under that name), maybe it was a combo of both factors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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