Colin Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Hi my Ammonia level is staying at 1.5ppm nitrite 0ppm ph 6.2 and good nitrates have done water changes last two days and still not dropping :dunno: tank size is 230ltr and running fluval 304,what should i do? or will it be ok to stay at that level.... looking for some advise,Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 How long have you had the tank setup for? It will take a number of weeks for the ammonia levels drop drop to zero. Also rather than doing water changes you could use Cycle or Ammo lock, both these products will convert the ammonia to ammonium which isn't toxic but will still feed the bacteria in your filter. Also when you do water changes are you using a water ager? If not the chlorine in the water will be stopping your filter from cycling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Hi, tank has been set up for about six months,water changes twice a week adding api strees coat+ with water changes thought after this amount of time it would have been ok :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 How many fish in it and what size? Chemicals can give you false test readings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Have you got any fish missing? a decomposing fish will produce a lot of ammonia. You could also test your tap water for ammonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Hi, 2 angles 10 clown loaches,couple of bn"s and a group of 10 julii corys,and 1 rio kp i have no missing fish :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 That is a lot of clowns for a tank that size. What size are the fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 6-8cm tank is 1200lx500wx600h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 In my head the tank works out to be 360L- the thickness of the glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Have you always had such high readings or is this recent? Have you done something to the tank? Have you added new fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 10mm yea might be a bit more over 230ltr than i thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Have you always had such high readings or is this recent? Have you done something to the tank? Have you added new fish? Added no new fish tank has always been good until last week..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Can you get the local petshop or a friend to do a test also to make sure your test results are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Seems to me like the tank is 300L+ :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Can you get the local petshop or a friend to do a test also to make sure your test results are right. Yes that might be a good idea, i trust the tests ive done because the other tanks ive got are all ok just seems strange that it is only one tank :dunno: if it was the test kits then i thought i would get the same results from my other tanks??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 how big are the water changes you are doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Water changes are about 40-50ltrs a time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrowssj Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 That seems very unusual. I would make sure there's no chlorine in the water you are putting in? also wouldn't hurt to add an internal filter something like a eheim 2012 would be good.. an might help abit with the build up of ammonia... You might not "need" it but its always good to have more filtration. Also cut back the feeding amounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirt Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Yes that might be a good idea, i trust the tests ive done because the other tanks ive got are all ok just seems strange that it is only one tank :dunno: if it was the test kits then i thought i would get the same results from my other tanks??? Good luck on getting that done at the LFS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Water changes are about 40-50ltrs a time.. quite small changes, won't change ammonia level much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-obstacle Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 quite small changes, won't change ammonia level much +1 - I'd recommend doing 100-150L at a time 1-2 times a week while you've still got the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 +1 - I'd recommend doing 100-150L at a time 1-2 times a week while you've still got the problem. I'm sure that I read that anything over about 20% water change (without water ager) will start to negatively effect the bacteria in the filter :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-obstacle Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm sure that I read that anything over about 20% water change (without water ager) will start to negatively effect the bacteria in the filter :dunno: I've had absolutely no problems doing 50% water changes with the garden hose. As long as you trickle fill the tank the water temp doesn't drop any more than 3 degrees and it's mostly the temp that affects the bacteria. By the time the water has splashed into the tank there's pretty much no chlorine left anyway but I always add a bit of prime to the tank to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm sure that I read that anything over about 20% water change (without water ager) will start to negatively effect the bacteria in the filter :dunno: That's kind of like refusing to mow your yard because it might annoy your gardener who hasn't shown up in a month.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 That's kind of like refusing to mow your yard because it might annoy your gardener who hasn't shown up in a month.... I din't say to not do any water changes, more looking for conformation/rebuttal about the % of water change when there is a (possible) problem in the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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