livingart Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 try a bit of marmite in warm water syringed into mouth for a boost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 got a funny look about it to me?might just be the pics but it looks frosty like you have had it in the freezer overnight.Not overdue for a shed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Yeah your right, should be medium-dark grey all over. black beard and down sides isnt normal either. shes very stressed, needs to eat or lay eggs soon or she will be toast. :-? edit p.s shed 3/4 weeks back, so not due i dont think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perpin Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Been offline a few days so did not see your thread. I really hope she makes it. Holding thumbs for you....and her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 you got a microscope to examine that? try smearing it on clean glass and see what it looks like is the colour in pic true to life maybe egg yolk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 no microscope. will see what i can do with camera. pic is unedited, pretty accurate. havent bathed her this morning. suspect thats what shes been passing in the water over last day or 2. doesnt look right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 no food so could just be urates, but a funny colour and consistency for urates i would expect internal bleeding to be black it maybe a partly formed or decomposed egg sorry can't be of more help :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Insect Direct Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 very guey, like egg white. urates + egg maybe? looks like little 1-2mm shardes of glass in there....maybe egg yoke? true colour spread out. above pic in blob wasnt as yellow as that to my eye, more yellow than when spread out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 i would run with not fully developed egg partly calcified hopefully it is the start of her cleaning herself out did you try the marmite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 will try marmite this avo. have to go upto the shop so will grab some soon. have been trying to leave her alone since yesterday. she wont like having a syringe in her face but i think its worth a shot. she can still see me coming a mile away. suppose thats a good thing. thanks for your help, much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Vit B's will work as well berocca tablets, marmite etc i just find marmite works well as a pick me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 thought id offer her some slaters (one of her favourites) before the marmite. almost ate one, she went for it but it went under dish and that was enough to lose interest. looked like she dribbled when trying to get the slater. was drinking water from bowl just prior so maybe just that, bit weird though. dripped some watered down marmite on her nose, shes lapped up a little bit, may open mouth and give her a shot soon. wonder if i should try put a small insect in her mouth. i know with healthy dragons, if they flare up and you drop a bug in their mouth they gobble it up like an automatic response... will have to physically open her mouth i think, what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Chronic dehydration and suboptimal temperatures can lead to gout and organ failure. Also, the yellow 'excreta' and yellow around the eye made me think of liver failure/jaundice which would support the theory of gout or perhaps hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver) associated with feeding high fat foods such as mealworms. I looked online for an article which would explain some of this - this was the best I could find on a quick search but I am sure there are others: http://www.anapsid.org/kidney.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Chronic dehydration and suboptimal temperatures can lead to gout and organ failure. Also, the yellow 'excreta' and yellow around the eye made me think of liver failure/jaundice which would support the theory of gout or perhaps hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver) associated with feeding high fat foods such as mealworms. I looked online for an article which would explain some of this - this was the best I could find on a quick search but I am sure there are others: http://www.anapsid.org/kidney.html best treatment if that is the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 In lieu of hospitalisation, I say the treatment listed on that page is the best way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 cool so i dont have to do my first liver transplant just yet. thanks for your input Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 No problem. If it is organ failure, then the prognosis is not always good so you may be in for a bit of a battle. You never know what can happen though, it is worth a try! :roll: Obligatory Disclaimer: that is just my educated guess, I am no expert. Taking it to the vet for tests would be the best way to narrow down the cause of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 She appears to have regained some colour to her body since having a little marmite earlier. Seemed to look better within an hour. Will get some food into her tomorrow. Not sure what to offer in the way of mashed up foods via syringe.. May just try putting a bug in her mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Gut load the bug with vegies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 bit of greens, and cricket, touch of marmite in the blender no that is not a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 i did ponder about trying to syringe out the abdomen contents of some large crickets. blender sounds like the go. will go add some fresh greens to the crickets now, good thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Good one. That is exactly what I would do. If you find it hard to pry open its mouth for a feed, shout out as I can give you some tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 if Jennifer is still on here would crushed charcoal tablet help absorb anything in the beardies system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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