Joe Posted May 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 What can I use then? I need something for a 150 liter tank. I found these ones on the internet called Rhinox or something. They look hidious!!! I want a diffuser that looks nice like those ADA diffusers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 P44 has PM'd you I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 OMG hahha ADA diffusers, I know a few wholesalers in Japan and they are astronomically priced. Think NZD $100+ and they are not suitable for DIY systems. And those are the wholesale prices. Why aren't they suitible for DIY systems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 not enough pressure in a DIY system. you will either land up damaging the diffuser's frit or nothing will happen at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Lack of pressure shouldn't damage the frit. The pores on the frit vary in size depending on what it will be used for and in the case of gas diffusion, the pores are quite small so if anything, excess pressure would damage it. The diffusion pressure of the gas and the atmospheric pressure on the other side of the frit both are issues that affect the diffusion. With most DIY setups the CO2 gas pressure builds up to a point that it begins to diffuse through the frit. Whether the bottle is set up to withstand that pressure is another issue altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 So you would spend $170 on a diffuser and it wont work :lol: I'd rather spend $18 and have it work hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 The diffusers you have are excellent P44. They are small and they work brilliantly. In fact, I have several! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I added another one on my tank today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I suspected as much...trying to grow some more plants are we? 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 only to keep up with the demand :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Any chance of getting some aromatica sent down with someone coming to the conference. Will have plants available to swap this end, if not now will later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Jennifer told me about these diffusers. I saw something similar on the internet and they are quite small. Does this mean I would need at least two for my sized tank once the plants get going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I have only just added a second one to my tank. Any chance of getting some aromatica sent down with someone coming to the conference. Will have plants available to swap this end, if not now will later. will keep in touch. i don't think there is any one going down there from here. its a slowish growing plant so i'll need more time. At the moment I'm increasing the CO2 and the ferts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 As I am going to redo my tank once that bogwood is waterlogged, I need to take the substrate out. I am not going to have plants growing in the substrate, but have mainly ferns and mosses growing on the bogwood. Although I will have a few substrate plants (various grasses, cryptocorynes ect). But I am thinking of doing something different. Rather than having a thick layer of substrate on the bottom of the tank, I want to hollow out areas in the bogwood and fill those with substrate so it looks like the plants are growing out of the bogwood. But I do want a thin layer of substrate on the bottom of the tank so I am not looking at glass. I was thinking... ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia (9 liter bag) ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia 2 (9 liter bag) Bacter 100 (100g) Tourmaline BC (100g) Rarangi Beach Sand How much will this cost (except Rarangi Sand, which is free!) and where will I get it from? I really hope it's not too expensive, otherwise I can't get it. Mum is giving me $60 to spend at the conference, and I need to try and make some more money. The fish I am planning for the tank are 15 Hyphessobrycon herbertaxelrodi. I've already sorted out 12 of them. If anyone wants to know where I'm getting my ideas from, go to page 3 of this thread and click on the hyperlink. I was going to have Cardinal Tetras instead of Black Neons, but Cardinals are just too expensive. I also need some more Bolbitis heudelotii, as it is slow growing and is going to be one of the main plants in this tank. Another fern I am interested in is Needle-leaf Java fern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia (9 liter bag) USD28 + shipping ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia 2 (9 liter bag) USD12 + shipping The bacters vary in price from about USD12 - USD20 Tourmaline varies from USD16- USD18 Shipping may not be available to New Zealand. None of the ADA products are officially available in NZ. so you will have to import them and pay freight. It is not cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Is there anything else similar that is availible in NZ that isn't too expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morcs Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 PM me about eh diffusers P44, ive imported a few shipments this year, and they are really good. might be able to get you a better supply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Puhlease! :lol: mine be better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I can bring you some narrow leaf java fern when we come down to conference Joe. There is an ADA shop in Australia, if that makes it cheaper for shipping? http://www.adaaust.com.au/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I'll wait a bit then until I have the money to afford shipping... I'll take you up on the offer Zev. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 No problems, be good to see you again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 I have another idea for my tank. The ADA stuff will be quite expensive, and I thought about just having a thin layer of peat and a thin layer of beach sand. The substrate should be about 1 cm deap, as I'm not having plants actually growing in the substrate, but in the bogwood. I'll hollow some pieces out and fill them with Dalton's aquatic mix and cover that with sand so it doesn't cloud the water. I'll then have plants like sagittaria, Cyperus helferi (if I can get some), cryptocorynes, mondo grass and lilaeopsis. My other plants will consist of Bolbitis heudelotii, java fern varieties and mosses to grow on the bogwood. If anyone has a large amount of spare Windelov that they could sell me quite cheap then can I please have some? I only have a tinsey bit at the moment and am getting nowhere with it. It's doing well though, and has lots of plantlets. I ALSO REALLY NEED TO GET RID OF MY FLAG CICHLEDS. I HAVE 27 LEFT. THEY ARE $5 EACH, OR I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SWAP FOR PLANTS INSTEAD. I need to plant up my other tank, so am frantic to get rid of them. I'll have plants like Alternanthera reineckii roseafolia, Crypts, ferns, mosses and Limnophila in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Does anyone know what types of Hemianthus and Micranthemum are availible in NZ? So far I only know of M. umbrosum. I would really like some Hemiathus callitrichoides if it is availible in NZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I would really like some Hemiathus callitrichoides if it is availible in NZ. :lol: Wouldn't we all? It may be here, I know of no one that has it though. Not readily available either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasi Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 :lol: Wouldn't we all? It may be here, I know of no one that has it though. Not readily available either. I know of someone who used to have it, but it is pretty rare in NZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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