Insect Direct Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Just curious what people are using. Mainly for the cold nights. Daytime i just use heat lamps I find the ceramic emitters good but i see a heat pad advertised for about the same price ($50) which got me thinking........I know people say bottom heat is not natural, but the beardies especially seem to like jumping on warm rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I use ceramic heat emitters and a light bulb as a boost in the winter (which I have just stopped using with the warmer weather). I have been told that beardies have no heat sensitivity on the underside so can get over heated with heat pads or rocks. Have not been able to confirm or deny, but don't use just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herperjosh Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 i use a ceramic heat emiter and yeah underheat for dragons is a no no they cant feel heat under them only top heat they can feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaNs Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 yeah underheat for dragons is a no no they cant feel heat under them only top heat they can feel So natural radiation from rocks in the wild is bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 From what I understand they tend to sit on posts and branches rather than rocks and the heat transfer from wood would be a lot less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broms2 Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I run heat pads in two of my enclosures underneath rocks, in both tanks the beardies actually dig out the sand on the sides of the rocks to get closer to the heat, I myself have had no problems with burning thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 i use under floor heating, max 29 degrees no burns so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabz Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 So natural radiation from rocks in the wild is bad? No because it is unlikely that the rocks would get scalding hot, unless, possibly during the middle of the day. During that time you wont find many reptiles basking, for just that reason, because it is way too hot. In the wild, reptiles usually bask in the mid morning sun, or the afternoon sun, and keep out of direct sunlight during the hottest part of the day. The problem with heat pads is that they come with no heat regulation, this combined with bearded dragons natural lack of heat sensitivity underneath provides a situation where burns can occur. By connecting a thermostat to the heat pad, and placing the probe on its surface, you should be able to regulate the temp quite accurately, I would also suggest placing something over the heat mat so that your dragon cannot come in direct contact. I use Exotic Pet Supplies melamine enclosures for my 3 girls, much less heating is required. I have a ceramic heat lamp controlled by a thermostat which is on constantly, this regulates the daytime ambient temp, and provides the night heating. I use a 100W basking lamp for the hot side, this is controlled by a dimmer which is set to about half during summer. This doubles the life of the lamp and provides more heat for less power. I have never had to use any other heat sources since I got these enclosures. In this pic there is a 40W lamp on the cool side, pic is from when I first got it. Didn't need it once everything was running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougstark Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I use a ceramic heat bulb for mine in the winter during the day but it is surrounded with bricks on sides and on top with a felt pad on top to make sure that they cant get burned, tho there is no real risk of that. The bulb is on a timer which is turned on and of regularly. I have eastern dragons that do not need so much heat and they are kept in a glasshouse and bought inside at night. The felt pad on top of the bricks also absorbs heat from the sun during the day as it is black. By the way my dragons behave I would say they can feel the heat under them by the way they flatten themselves against against the felt on cooler days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogod Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 I use ceramic heat bulb things and lite bulb, have both on during winterdays and nothinng at nite, doesnt get that cold.iinsulate my glass tanks with poly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herperjosh Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 So natural radiation from rocks in the wild is bad? dont think so but noo sure but the cant sense heat coming from underneath them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted October 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 from observations id say beardies do sense bottom heat but you do hear of burns so maybe no very well. Im thinking mainly for night so may put heat pad even just for half of the tank. So they can still get away if wanting to. Or just ceramic emitters i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake kid Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 from what I have seen of other peoples dragons they like to spend alot of time climbing so if you use lights or heat emmiters they get closer to the heat any way so under terrarium heat might be less effective? (don't take my word just somthing I noticed when watching them.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted October 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 beardies seem to prefer to hang out at the highest point when basking/during day so i make the basking site just that. rest very simple for feeding bugs. night time they normally go to lower parts and hide away. heat emitters are good, although if they blow you have to be onto it, to notice...dont want cold lizards also i like to have a light over basking area so its bright. emitter on its own doesnt seem rite to me during the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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