HandS Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 A friend of mine just brought some "baby goldfish" off tm, to feed to her turtle, they arrived and she suspects they are gambusia :evil: Ive checked the doc website, but cannot find a 0800 number for her to ring. Any one know a 0800 number for her to ring and chat to DOC/MAF. Unfortunatly she lives out of town so i can not go and confirm what they are, but she said they look like plain guppys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Just ring the local DOC area office, they will be able to tell you. Also maybe try the 'blue pages' in your phone book - govt listings. Good on you for doing this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandS Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Decided to go and check them out, they are full growen gambusia :evil: Rung the maf 0800 number, they told me to ring the another 0800 number, the one for reporting undersized fish :roll: as it was "fish" related. Rung maf back, and they dont know what to do...???...??? they said they will ring me back. Dam they are making this dificualt. Seen the Auction, and they ARE being sold as baby goldfish :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabman Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Can you post the auction number? I am interested to know if the seller is aware of what they are selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandS Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 would like to , but do not want to breach forum rules, will put it up as soon as i get a ok from a mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 You can give us the auction number. It is the direct link that causes a breach of guidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandS Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 OK, My friend just got a call back from MAF, Basically they told her that the problem was too wide spread, they are not going to do anything about it, and even told her that it would be "OK to keep a few" :evil: This is crazy, Im sure these are illegal, and to tell her to keep a few! Whats the would coming too. Im sure they dont say the same to the drug growers???? Auction number 195789655 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 That is obscene! A whole bunch of laws have been broken!! Get in touch with DOC. I can't imagine MAF would be much use in this case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Off the DOC 'Contact Us' page: Emergencies For conservation emergencies telephone: 0800 DOCHOTline (0800 362 468) Conservation Emergencies are: * Conservation-related law enforcement (for example illegal white-baiting, vandalism of huts and tracks, removal of plants from reserves, killing or catching of native wildlife, fishing in marine reserves, disturbing marine mammals) * Sick or injured wildlife * Marine mammal stranding (whales and dolphins only) * Safety Watch (damaged and/or unsafe visitor facilities) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowfax Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 im not suprised at all. i emailed maf about someone that was breeding & selling wild rabbits & they didnt even email back even after 3 others on tm where doing it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sounds like too many bureaucrats to me. Surely we could combine DOC MAF and ERMA and make things a whole lot more efficient... :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfin Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I don't know anything about gambusia, but wikipedia says that some of the species are rare and others extinct. but I take it they damage native fish species - is that right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandS Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 http://www.fnzas.org.nz/index.php?PG=PestTaskForce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 but they look nothing like goldfish! :evil: :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfin Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 ahhh I see, you're right nothing like goldfish but alot like a guppy, little buggers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I thought they looked a lot like guppies too. Did this person not catch on that their baby goldfish never grew up??? I take it they're around the size of a guppy? EDIT Mature females grown to 6 cm and males to 3.5 cm. They mature at six weeks old and are unusual because they give birth to live young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I've heard people use "Goldfish" to refer to any kind of pet fish. I wouldn't be surprised if these people aren't fishkeepers, noticed there's something swimming in their pond and went, "Baby goldfish!" I thought they looked a lot like guppies too. Did this person not catch on that their baby goldfish never grew up??? I take it they're around the size of a guppy? Yeah, they're hard to tell from colorless guppies. Similar size, similar shape, given the difficulty getting a good look at fish in a bucket, bag, etc I'd say they're extremely easy to get confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I have had sales removed for selling banned plants by contacting trademe. In this case there is no sale at present so nothing to ban, and there is no confirmation of what the fish is (no picture) so hard for them to do much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 The buyer could give a big red face on the feedback and explain that they were gambusia and not goldfish as advertised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-town... Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I've heard people use "Goldfish" to refer to any kind of pet fish. I wouldn't be surprised if these people aren't fishkeepers, noticed there's something swimming in their pond and went, "Baby goldfish!" also the people that dont know Shubs, black moor,s redcaps etc are goldfish :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzled Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 There is another auction, offering baby mosquito fish with the tank for sale Have reported and asked a question 197552973 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 well had some one ask me if i wanted there gold fish coz they were moving house so i said okay thinking they were plain goldfish they dropped off 3 goldfish(1 was fantail,)3 danios 1 gold sword tail and 2 gold tropicle fish they all suvrive the colder water but i put them in slightly heated tank so there happyer and moving lots just wasnt what i was expecting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 One way to tell them apart is that the dorsal fin of Gambusia starts after the anal fin, whereas the dorsal fin of a guppy starts almost level with the anal fin. In saying that, with some of the fancy guppies it may be hard to tell, I have a female with a long dorsal that seems to start back a bit further than the shorter finned guppies. Gambusia affinis Mosquitofish Poecilia reticulata Guppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 That'd be pretty hard to tell unless you can get the fish to sit still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke* Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 ouu...that's no good! regarding identifying them you could put in the palm of your hand and gently hold down with your thumb to check the finnage. also they are totally colourless...you can get female guppies like this but amongst them would likely be males..they will have some colour and the caudal (tail) fin will be broader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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