tHEcONCH Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Naa-naaa na-na-naaa. Told you so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Visser Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Naa-naaa na-na-naaa. Told you so I see now :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danilada Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Naa-naaa na-na-naaa. Told you so What a big kid :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danilada Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Like I said, nothing to get into a lather about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.PROPHECY Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted March 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 the conch just to clarify matters a great deal of ppl "claim " to have bred all sorts of things (i can only assume for their ego ) you can appreciate photos or registered breedings seperate the confirmed breeders from the "wannabe's " i never put you in either category merely asked for proof of yr claim which you are unable to produce that being the way it is i neither deny your claim nor regard it as a breeding But a breeding is one thing ,to offer advise on raising them with a "complete die off rate " i think is careless to say the least especially when part of your advise is jabi tabis which (no known article ) but straight from the manufactures lips should not be fed to hypans (ring them and ask them yrself ) perhaps this was yr downfall in raising the young If you do not rate a freshwater breeding of a fish, that is not only hard to find in new zealand, nor is it on the allowed imported list anymore, as anything to rate very much so that others like dandilia may enjoy them then i then question yr reasoning for fishkeeping or is it to merely sit on here and claim to do things that havent been done before ,without proof , and try to downplay anyone who has ??? happy fishkeeping if you remember what that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 the conch just to clarify matters a great deal of ppl "claim " to have bred all sorts of things (i can only assume for their ego ) you can appreciate photos or registered breedings seperate the confirmed breeders from the "wannabe's " i never put you in either category merely asked for proof of yr claim which you are unable to produce that being the way it is i neither deny your claim nor regard it as a breeding But a breeding is one thing ,to offer advise on raising them with a "complete die off rate " i think is careless to say the least especially when part of your advise is jabi tabis which (no known article ) but straight from the manufactures lips should not be fed to hypans (ring them and ask them yrself ) perhaps this was yr downfall in raising the young If you do not rate a freshwater breeding of a fish, that is not only hard to find in new zealand, nor is it on the allowed imported list anymore, as anything to rate very much so that others like dandilia may enjoy them then i then question yr reasoning for fishkeeping or is it to merely sit on here and claim to do things that havent been done before ,without proof , and try to downplay anyone who has ??? happy fishkeeping if you remember what that is Don't go and pack a sad now - if breeding plecs is what you are into, then go for it - but it doesn't interest me at all. But just to clarify, the spawns which I fed Tabis to did better, not worse - hence my advice to give it to them. In any event, I suspect you are really upset because maybe you weren't the first person in New Zealand to get them to this stage. Big deal. Get over it an enjoy your achievement anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 conch may not have had "written" proof but he did have a eyewitness to back his claim and another to back his character, would probably be enough for a court of law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted March 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 cant really figure out yr intention here seems you might be suffereing from south island syndrome ...never asked for any recognition for having being the first to breed them so not upset at all as for JBL tabis THE MANUFACTURER that being JBL have stated DO NOT FEED TO HYPANS but rather than accepting that advise given by another member as being as true as yr acclaimed spawning you dismiss it so are condtridicting one claim from another i am enjoying my achievemnet if you want to call it that and if i want to take acclaim can take the fact that at least mine survive to this day so I AM the first to get them to this stage As for yr advise i still stand by my remark "how can you advise on a complete death rate for survival? n.b i wont respond to this reply as i find when i argue with idiots they tend to bring me down to their level and beat me with experience so enjoy posting what you like from here on in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyfish Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 We have feed "tabis" to our Hypan's which at the time we even recommended it to a friend, also with Hypans because they loved it!!!! However if you look at a post I made some time ago in regards to bloated catfish and then we both had unexpainable deaths due to bloat. We made some inquiries to a well knowen owner of a fish shop and he made some inquiries. JBL came back and said under no circumstances should Tabis be feed to Hypans (go figure there is a l046 on the cover of the bottle!!!) Too late for us now as we can not recover the fish that we lost, my advise to any Hypan owners is stay well away from this product p.s we feed this product to other non Hypan Plec's and they love it!! and they are deisgned too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiden Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Ive been watching this soap opera with anticipation the professional banter has been outstanding :bounce: Then I came to the 2nd to last post and couldn't understand as it was spoken too high for me to hear for some reason :-? must be because I am too far south of the bombay hills or something.....just really confused right now :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 n.b i wont respond to this reply as i find when i argue with idiots they tend to bring me down to their level and beat me with experience so enjoy posting what you like from here on in this thread I find it curious that you are not prepared to meet the same quantum of evidence as you demand from me. Where is the evidence that JBL don't recommend Tabis? I experienced no problems at all when I used them. If you look around this website a little more you will find plenty of evidence of things I have bred, so to suggest that I'm claiming this 'for my ego' doesn't make any sense at all, especially given that this started when YOU pasted a comment I made in another thread over here so you could take issue with it. Incidentally mine didn't die of bloat. The last lot got to 3 months before I pulled down the tank, sold off the adults, and used the fry as feeder fish to make room for another project. I guess it must bum you out that an 'idiot' bred them before you did, especially by accident, and so far South as well. I think its pretty obvious who really looks like the idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyfish Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 For those that doubt our claim please contact JBL via email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 So mr pleco how are these chocolates going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted July 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 yeah good thanks dixon growing fast and running out of room to keep them esp with the king tigers in full swing aswell heres some of latest pics not sure at this stage if i wanna grow them out or sell some guess ill see from this post how much interest there is in them .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 :bounce: Looking good, how much do htese guys usually go for inshops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted July 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 to be honest dixon i have never seen them in the shops but i suspect adults would range from $100 to around $160 dont know for sure as like i said theyare not common and with the brazil bzn and MAf unlikley to see them in the country again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Im planning on getting some 'Fancy' Plecs once my Planted Discus tank is up and running, probably just flash and clown plecs though due my lack of money :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pleco Posted July 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 yeah well good luck with the flashes they usually retail for around $140 each mine definetly wont be that expensive :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 I think ive ssen them at $125 plus local is easier and less stressful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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