Alan

Good one TS, I think you may realise that you are lucky that your numbers have dropped by so much. They aren't the easiest of cichlids to dispose of when the time comes. But good practice for when you go on to more dificult breedings.

For a family type forum Ben I think I'll refrain from "Show us ya polyps." Just somehow don't think the pics would be as cute as yours.

Maybe that is why they are called angles and not angels.

If you do it when it is full, you should make a bit of money if you have a vid going while you remove the bracing. Check the insurance is up to date too. I wouldn't

And I have used a glass cutter and removed only the part of the brace required, leaving the remainder of the brace intact.

Afrikan, in my opinion, those L/T G's mean nothing. What's a life time. To you it will be one thing, to the giver, I bet it means something else. Insurance companies come to mind. :evil:

What do you expect for a guarantee, they are really doing it to cover the making of it, glue failure possibility, but if it lasts a year it should do for its life span. Nothing else they can really cover for, is there??

You haven't Reef??

Hey Dude, did they dig that hole in the gravel. If so, I wonder if they are getting into spawning mood. I have no idea of how they do it,(breed) but it would be interesting to find out, especially if they did do the excavation.

David, it was the Oct 2002 issue.

Use a magnetic cleaner for the front and snails for the bottom. As Spider says, syphon the water into a fine net, kept in water, and return the wanderers later to the tank.

Have you had any babies from them? If so, what colour and how many of them were there??

Just checked my PFK's that I got on TradeMe and the Oct 2002 is missing. Got the ones either side, but the MAIN one isn't there. It would have been very interesting to see it.

Opps! Warning! Warning. That is where you have made your mistake Ruthie. When you clean your filter in tap water, the chlorine is what kills the "good bugs". So as Spider says, wash it in the water that you have syphoned out. IMO your tank is in an uncycled condition and the ammonia content is what is upsetting your fish, it can go to the point of killing them. But don't sweat, most of us have done the same, but we learn from it. Have you any plants in your tank, if not, get some, they are a good investment as long as you have reasonable lighting.

Do you want my addy?? 8)

http://ezinearticles.com/?Encourage-You ... &id=286772 This is a buzz. Sorry for the pun. http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/biol ... _fish.html

Mystic is after some cheap ones Stu, and she lives down that way too.

I agree there with you Ryan. Those fish in my opinion are deformed and should have been culled to keep a good clean finnage line.

Ya hoo Paul Those were the ones Peter mis-identified too at the Tauranga meeting. I think at that stage, I hadn't picked up, or anyone else, the difference from your ones that you had previously bred. No spots on the anal fin to the ones that Wok had picked up for me. We had held up the bags beside one another too.

Wilson, I took the liberty to do an edit on your article. Please find below:- White Cloud Mountain Minnows Common name: White cloud mountain minnow, poor mans neon, meteor minnow Scientific/Latin name: Tanichthys albonubes Maximum length: 3.5 to 4.5 centimetres Colours: brown, green, yellow, red, neon blue, and black Temperature preference: 5-30 deg C pH preference: 6 to 7 Hardness preference: Soft Salinity preference: Low to 1 Tablespoon per 10 to 30 gallons Compatibility: Excellent with each other and all other species that I have kept. Life span: 3 to 10 years Ease of keeping: Easy White Cloud Mountain Minnows are small, hearty fish found in the Mountain streams of China. These fish are active, healthy, and cheap. They can be a variety of colour tones, but all have a characteristic horizontal line on their bodies, and are usually less than 1.5". Males are generally more colourful than the females. White Clouds are ideal for nearly any level of aquarist. They can survive very well in nearly any freshwater tank set-up, and can even do well in a wide range of temperatures ranging from 5-30.C. They also do well with virtually all other fish, because they are very peaceful. The only exception to this would be larger fish that may eat them. Also if kept out of a shoal they have been known to attack more colour full fish e.g. guppies Mountain Minnows will eat virtually anything you give them. A steady diet of flakes with the occasional veggie matter or live food treat is a great diet for these hardy fish. Because of this omnivorous nature, White Clouds are definitely not a pain to feed, and will not empty your wallet. For all fish breeders, beginner and experienced, White Clouds are a dream. They must be one of the easiest, if not the easiest, to successfully spawn. All they really need is a good plant, such as Java Moss or others, to lay their eggs in, and those are almost ideal conditions. White Clouds will spawn in nearly any tank, even community tanks. The eggs will hatch in around 48 hours, and after that, the fry will wriggle around for a few days before going to find food. A well-planted tank will be perfect for the fry to find micro-food. E.g. infusoria. There is also a long-finned variety of White Cloud Mountain Minnows called "Meteor Minnow" or "Red Rocket Minnow". These fish are more colourful than the regulars, but are extremely rare to find in shops if at all in NZ. These fish are also extremely hardy, and are just as active. This special breed is very fun to have, and is probably one of the coolest Cyprinids. Since White Cloud Mountain Minnows are small, hearty, and active; are so beautiful, easy to spawn, and are most of all extremely peaceful and cheap. Will eat mostly anything, and are so easy to keep alive, they are a must for the beginner, and also make a great addition to an experienced aquarists tank please tell me if it has any spelling errors it shouldn’t be two bad I’ve taken all day to write it. (The two that you have in this line should be too) I don't say it is perfect tho, just a tad better. Al

No I didn't succeed with mine Paul, I got down to one lonely fish, and as you know, they don't breed too well likr that. Maybe I can obtain some that aren't "Shop soiled" Good one Paul. While in Auck. I checked most of the "Big" shops up there and none had those in. I looked real hard too.

That's one misshapen hoplo. Looks like it had a bad accident when young. From the leading edge of the dorsal to the nose, should be a long even curve. They're bubblenesters

I have two of them. But they don't have enough air output for me tho.

Before considering getting one, ask yourself what are you going to do when it gets up to a 600mm long, tank buster. Then go back to the shop and admire theirs. Another fish that shouldn't IMO be imported for obvious reasons.

I take it from your last post that you didn't quarantine them before adding them to your tank?? Tisk, tisk. Lot easier to have a bit of peace of mind and treat a BB quarantine tank, than a stocked, planted community tank, that could have very expensive fish inhabitants. Next time huh??