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1 is 18cms, another is 16 to 17cms just a tad smaller.

Haha talk about photoshoping a photo

Yeah fair call. App novelty hasnt worn off yet :-)

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fx5 inlet pipe lol yeah, i got this app on my phone lol love technology! its a sketch guru thing lol awesome! got bored, had coffee to laet couldnt sleep. i also got a game called PLAGUE INC on my phone, you infect the planet etc. (just as an aside )

Do it!

Easy way is to hurry up with the tank and keep them. :-)

True, that is a good width. also, you dont need to clean the walls, your royals will do that 8)

yes, in saying that, i find the fx5 gruntier... i was referring to cheaper chinese stuff, not eheim, eheim is definitely very efficient. fx5 value for money vs water crankput (new word i made up) vs initial cost vs capacity fx5 has so much power in terms of turn over, mech filtration is awesome, clarity is good. but yes, if you look at power, then over 24/7 cycle, 1x fx5 to 1x eheim ... eheim wins... but i think fx5 will filter more. also, initial purchase price, you can get 2x fx5... make sense? i gu3ess depends on the tank. eheim is really focused on extreme bio filtration.... not turn over as such looking at the capacity of the filter as well, can contain more bio media.

I also th ink though that there is certainly an amazeballs factor to a huge tank, 4 foot wide, adds such an extreme depth that is so hard to comprehend. you can put bits of wood in it for example, at the back and look far away, that adds a certain enjoyment for me. having a black aro, david will need some good turning space if you want to reach that 70cm mark:D

Yeah its bang for your buck really. Eheims are good... But value wise... Fx5 is king.

Plastic plants have its place.... when the fish in the tank would destroy plants... then use plastic 8) or a few to obsure over flows, provide shade for hiding fish like clown knives in a large bare bottom tank... tie/staple them to drift wood and let them float upwards or by a powerhead to have a natural movement type thing

if you calculate 10w in the life of the filter, on 24/7.... you will see that paying for a good brand with low power consumption is worth it with in 2 years. dont get caught up in a false economy! you get cheap sun sun return pumps.... all of which consume more power than las vegas at night. i would do fluval fx5.... for the price of a eheim pro - you can get 2 fx5s. 2fx5s will outfilter the eheim. 1x eheim pro does not equate to 2 fx5s

for that tank size, sump, but, if you cant be bothered. fx5 is awesome, best value ever! hard core motor, mech filtration on an fx5 on a course foam/wool/bio media configuration is really good (top to bottom basket in order)

yeah, dont have a tank too tall... unless you like to swim in a tepid bath.... then its ok:D I say go for the bigger, largely cos this is really the tank to rule them all. it is unlikely you will have another tank in the house, maybe just the 4 foot for a sickbay and grow out.... but really, this IS THE TANK. and money... money is made to be spent.... why do we earn it if we dont wanna spen dit?? (playing devils advocate) 8) YOu know you want to.... do it...... (where is a leprechaun icon when you need one?!?!) As for cleaning the back wall, i can imagine, its impossible. you doing hardscape or black background only? If its just a balck background, then no cleaning on the back wall will ever be needed. cos really, your royals will take care of that, any sailfin pleco would keep your tank clean back and sides. also wikth a blacked out pane of glass, you wouldnt notice anything anyways.

Ha! fair enough. well, i do agree, critter should buy it! awesome fish.

Haha I guess in those cases or similar.... you are stuck

Haha i would LOVE a jardinii but not right now as usual, wrong timing! but one day, i may just one a j ar!

Couple weeks I think. Earliest reviews say so anyways

yeah i reckon. you should add to it!

http://www.careeryou.co.nz/ I found it fun reviewing my work place lol Sometimes you just gotta get it off your chest!

Well, maybe you should get an aro:D cos they are super cool lol

Lol i bought 120 plus ish large winged crickets. father in law has 4 leopard geckos too. they dont eat much really. but brutus gets the bulk of them

just for fun for those who like to watch fish eat little creatures:D