my new mini fish are so hidey that since I put them in their tank I have only ever seen 3 out of 5 out together, even then it was a coincidence because they were trying to hide when I saw them :sml2: . Have beefed up their plants and still no change so I am happy to leave them be and hope they feel braver in a couple of weeks. They are eating at least, I gave them some daphnia which had disappeared the next day. In the shop they were very nervous indeed, I would have thought they were practically unsellable to someone who didn't know what they were. I am consoled by the fact that there is still an empty cell left in the tank where I feel (hope) I could pop in some CPDs for a few days and get some fry. :spop: